Army Department Constabulary, HM Prisons or ?

[Michael L]

I have seen this described as a cap badge and as a collar dog and for Army Department Constabulary and HM Prisons. Was it used by either of these? I have seen left facing and right facing and suspect it is a collar dog. Can anyone shed some light on the usage and by whom?

- Michael

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[engr9266]

Originally Posted by Michael L

I have seen this described as a cap badge and as a collar dog and for Army Department Constabulary and HM Prisons. Was it used by either of these? I have seen left facing and right facing and suspect it is a collar dog. Can anyone shed some light on the usage and by whom?

- Michael

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I know it as a collar for the War Department/ Army Department Police. I cannot answer for HM Prisons.

[altcar73]

Prison Service insignia worn in England & Wales prior to 1953 (KC era) had a brass finish (not chrome). That would be my first point. Secondly, as far as I'm aware a badge of this design was not worn by prison staff. A similar design was worn (in chrome and white metal) by the War Dept. Constabulary as collar/epaulette badge.

Dave.

[Bantam]

Hi I concur with Dave definitely not worn by prison staff.
Bantam

[Michael L]

Thank you, Dave and Bantam. I did a little more research and it seems the Army Department Constabulary I had seen referenced as using it was not formed until 1964. I also found a reference to the use by the War Department Constabulary as well as a Queen's crown version. Thank you!

- Michael

[Mike_2817]

A War Department Constabulary was formed in 1925, and was renamed the Army Department Constabulary in 1964 when the War Office became the Army Department.

In 1971 the Ministry of Defence Police absorbed the ADC along with the Air Force Department Constabulary and the Admiralty Constabulary