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03-02-20, 04:02 PM
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Modern West Riding by Firmin
Does anyone have any information on this badge please?
It seems relatively modern and normally I’d be inclined to condemn it as fake. However the finish from the front looks pretty good quality and it also has a Firmin mark embossed onto the reverse of the scroll as well stamped in the slider. The construction reminds me a bit of Birmingham mint. Why it has a officer’s quality finish to the front and is on a slider is odd. The embossed makers mark is not something I’m familiar with on fakes, albeit I don’t collect officers badges so have limited experience. So is it a more modern variant or just another repo? Please note if this is good I’ll likely move it on. Cheers, Luke 
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03-02-20, 04:24 PM
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Luke,
DWR was not in the Birmingham Mint set so I think that can be ruled out. It is possible that it is an officer badge, even with a slider, either issue or from PRI or military tailor. I think that I may have a similar one so will check now. Tim
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#3
03-02-20, 04:27 PM
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I think it is from the Danbury Mint collection.
Marc Wrong again!
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#4
03-02-20, 04:59 PM
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Not from Danbury Mint as badges were anodised with blades.
Here is mine from LONDON BADGE & BUTTON Co Ltd. In packet of issue with correct NSN. A quality badge. Tim
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04-02-20, 12:24 AM
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Luke,
I have spent quite some time on this badge and I believe that it is an official issue officers example from the mid 1990's with an NSN of 8455-99-130-3704 pattern No. 30204. It was deleted from the inventory in 2009. Firmin later marked their badges just 'FIRMIN' in quite large letters although there are abbreviations of 'F&S' and the 'double diamond FIRMIN' mark etc. However, FIRMIN.LONDON seems early/mid 1990's. If anyone has an example of this badge in unopenend packaging then I would be most interested to see it. Regards, Chris
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04-02-20, 05:57 PM
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Yes, that's a good one - missed your post earlier. Chris
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04-02-20, 09:38 PM
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Taking this further - the only packaging I have seen for modern LB&B badges is tissue paper held in place by a piece of sellotape - I believe the badges came loose in boxes of 50. I think Mike Commerford stated that these badges were then stripped of said tissue and placed into the packaging you have shown by the Army itself with sticker on the front with NSN and quantity info. Hence packaging you have is not LB&B but MoD. This sort of packaging is quite common on modern items but I have been unable to determine if badges in this packaging are solely LB&B or perhaps unmarked Shaw Munster, TKS etc. Regards, Chris
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03-05-21, 01:16 PM
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This is my badge which I obtained from the Regiment 1997. Cheers. Last edited by eddie; 22-01-23 at 12:47 PM.
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03-05-21, 01:26 PM
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Just to add to the mix, here is one I have.
Lovely silver/gilt from the front. Drilled hole between head and neck like the others. But to the rear, loops (one missing) and the Gilt scroll appears riveted on. Anyone know anything about this one? regards
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#12
03-05-21, 02:11 PM
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Post my modern items in gallery and album Officers badge same as Eddie's
Also have one on lugs somewhere
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#13
05-05-21, 11:37 AM
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regards
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#14
05-05-21, 01:12 PM
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I can confirm that yours is NOT an officers badge , despite it having the appearance of such. It is in fact a PRI supplied badge, the rivets on the lower scroll are the giveaway . These are still available from the Bankfield Museum in Halifax (which also houses the Dukes regimental museum). The officers badges (to the best of my knowledge), uniquely for officers badges, all have slider fittings.
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#15
05-05-21, 01:19 PM
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Thanks Paul, problem solved.
regards
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