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Old 08-12-19, 06:06 PM
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Evening all,
On Friday i was gifted some pieces from WW1 air assets
Also what looks like a tool for tightening barbed wire from WW1 France.
The owners AB439 is present with some details.
Id love to be able to have a picture of the officer in question or some further ideas on his service
His name is Lt Fenton George Hort, of the London Electrical Engineers RE (T).

He was obviously something to do with searchlight (found that on the web).
What would 30, 62 and 14 A.A.S.S BEF (i know BEF) be please?
These bits were found in a skip years ago and passed to me because of my interest.
My lads doing WW1 at school.
Id like to print off a picture of Mr Hort and show how innoculous "junk" can be personalalised through a little effort and support from peolpe.
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Old 08-12-19, 06:14 PM
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A couple of bits:

First Name:
F G
Surname:
Hort
Information:
On Probation.
Rank:
2nd Lieutenant
Service:
British Army
Primary Unit:
Royal Engineers
Secondary Unit:
No. 4 London Searchlight Company
Tertiary Unit:
Territorial Force
Archive Reference:
1916 Army List
Seniority Date:
18/03/1916
Collection: UK Army List 1916.



First Name:
F G
Surname:
Hort
Nationality:
British
Rank:
Lieutenant
Service:
British Army
Regiment:
Royal Engineers. Territorial Force
Battalion:
London Electrical Engineers
Seniority Date:
19/09/1917
Collection:
UK Army List 1918
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Old 08-12-19, 06:47 PM
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Hi, all that looks like aircraft wreckage, the brass item looks like a fuel stop cock, the tension item is for the wires on a biplane wing, or a control wire.
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Old 08-12-19, 06:56 PM
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Old 08-12-19, 07:15 PM
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"AASS" - I think this will be "Anti Aircraft Searchlight Station" but am not in a position to check books.
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Old 08-12-19, 07:48 PM
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AASS - Anti-Aircraft Searchlight Section

https://www.worldwar1luton.com/glossary-abbreviations
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Old 08-12-19, 08:23 PM
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There is a lot of material about his father Sir Arthur Fenton Hort 1864-1935 a Botanist and Master at Harrow School on the internet.

Fenton George Hort is shown at http://www.thepeerage.com/p48123.htm#i481222


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Old 08-12-19, 08:29 PM
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From service document photo :
"30 AASS B.E.F 21-3-17"

From 'RE Library and Archive World War One Unit War Diaries' (Page 37 Section 138).

"30 Anti-Aircraft Searchlight Section 09 Mar 1917 to 21 Mar 1917"

https://www.re-museum.co.uk/wp-conte...iaries-WW1.pdf

So , perhaps if you contact the Royal Engineers Museum in Kent they will have more info.
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Old 09-12-19, 08:56 AM
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Thank you all for your assistance. I was lookingat engaging with the RE museum.
I love this part of collecting.
Innocuous item to something personalised .
Ill keep you all in the picture.
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BBF GOODDEN label.JPG
That label attached to a bit of prop from a BE2C force landed Boulogne after engine failure mid channel.

Is there a date on the back of the label?

The name of the pilot seems to be 'Gooden'

I only find one Gooden, being Stephen Frederick Gooden but he doesn't look to me to be a good match.

The name Goodden was often mis-spelt Gooden and there is an interesting candidate:

Frank Widenham Goodden, who was killed in a flying accident testing an SE5a in 1917. Quite a lot of info on him but I haven't seen a report of his forced landing a BE2C. Hence a date would be very helpful.
Interesting career.[URL="http://sussexhistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=6507.0"[/URL] gives a good summary.

The BE2C single seater was not that common. Most were 2 seaters. A 12 Cylinder engine was unusual as most were 8 cylinder. (I'm at limit of any techy knowledge I have!) I suspect theaerodrome.com forum is a good place to enquire about this combination.**

What do you think ?

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Old 07-01-20, 08:44 PM
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I'm making a mess of this post. This bit should have been on my post above ?

The BE2C single seater was not that common. Most were 2 seaters. A 12 Cylinder engine was unusual as most were 8 cylinder. (I'm at limit of any techy knowledge I have!) I suspect theaerodrome.com forum is a good place to enquire about this combination.*


**edit- The BE2C single seater was actually called the BE12. It had the more powerful V12 engine RAF4. Some 600 were produced.
There's agood wiki page here:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_...Factory_B.E.12

hope those links work ?
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Thanks Charlie
Ill have a look when back home at the end of the week Sir. Appreciate the info
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