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22-10-12, 11:46 AM
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please help me out
Here we go gentlemen,
This badge was bought at Stratford yesterday, the seller is a highly trusted dealer who openly admitted that he wasn't sure what exactly it was, he thought that it may be a Royal Fusiliers Side Cap badge and I bought it as such. The silver rose helps to substantiate the connection to the Royal Fusiliers but the grenade flames are more likely to be Royal Engineers, can anyone identify it please, obviously if a Royal Fusiliers I keep it but if it is to the Royal Engineers, it goes for the same as I paid for it. Incidentally, it's dimensions are approximately 60mm in height and 35mm in width ?? As always, thanks in advance. Dave. 
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#2
22-10-12, 12:03 PM
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Hi Dave.
If you have Colin Churchill's collar badge book, look at page 44, item 203; Royal Fusiliers late 1890s embroidery grenade with silver rose. Regards Brian
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22-10-12, 12:26 PM
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Cheers Brian,
I did have a quick look last night but noticed that in Churchill, the model shown has 8 flames where as mine has nine, hence the RE thought pattern ?? everything else, size etc, points in the direction of that collar ??? would there be such a variation in design, I'm sure there isn't a connection between the rose and the Engineers ?? Another point I have just noticed on re-checking page 44, is that on the next page is an image of the R.F. cadets that I also show and it appears that unless cap and collar were the same size, I have just acquired a very expensive collar to said cadets ?? I wonder ??? I'm still hoping it is Royal Fusiliers. Dave.
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#4
22-10-12, 12:35 PM
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Hi Dave.
It may be your eyes, It might be mine. I've counted again. I see both with nine. Regards Brian
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#5
22-10-12, 01:08 PM
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Hi Brian,
You're a poet and I bet you know it ?  I've looked again at Churchill's, and I'm sorry mate but I only see eight ??  There is also a difference in the size of the rose ?  but I'm not quite as good as yourself at writing prose ??????  Is there a remote possibilty that whilst making my stick, You may have poked your eye with end of that horn atop of it ? Dave.
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#8
22-10-12, 07:15 PM
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Saidly I think its a duffer as the rose loks like a post WWII medal rose which has a blade to the rear for attaching to ribbon bars if you look at teh WWII rose pic you will see they are the same except for the 2 holes which the post war examples dont have ie falklands war , gulf war etc very sorry to see it happerning steve
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#9
22-10-12, 07:30 PM
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I think I mentioned in post #9 the possibility of it being made up to look like a Royal Fusiliers, if it has, it's fooled quite a few ' experts ' and I will be a teeny bit narked to say the least. It proves that after all this time and advice, I have learned nowt and I can still be so easily swayed, I think I may be on the vino a little early tonight, it certainly can take the edge off a great day out ???? Dave. PS, I forgot to load photo ??? Last edited by davec2; 22-10-12 at 07:52 PM. Reason: forgot photo
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