Rogues Gallery

[TomPC]

Hi All,

Can anyone help identify any of these items please?

1a. Small Button with w/m crown/coronet (1.5cm diameter)
1b. Loose crown that looks similar but may be entirely unconnected

2. Artillery or Engineers? Does anyone recognise the letter system? Indian? Thai?

3. Green Howards badges with sliders - small - one w/m, one g/m. Seen described on eBay and britishmilitarybadges.co.uk (which doesn't bode well) as WW2 beret badges. No markings except 1885 in centre of Dannebrog.

4. Some sort of Lancashire Fusiliers medallion (blank on back and rim). I presume it's 3rd prize for the regimental egg and spoon race but post it here in case someone recognises it as something specific

5. Royal Fusiliers sweethearts badge but has anyone any idea at all what the horseshoe-type thing around it might be, apart from a lack of design?

6. A small R Fus badge in w/m (2/3 the size of a normal badge)

Thanks and best wishes,

Tom

[Deejayuu]

item 3 is not GH, check the date. 1885 means its the 19th Hussars. GH has 1875. WM badge is the standard cap badge the GM badge would be wwi economy though it would need checking out.

[leigh kitchen]

1- Merchant Navy?
4 is a regimental "medal" of some kind to the Lancashire Fusiliers, the back perhaps bearing engraved name of recipient and / or event such as shooting or a sport..
5 is a sweetheart brooch, Royal Fusiliers, the horseshoe being a common feature of many regimental sweethearts.
It symbolises good luck although the shoe being that way up is sometimes held not to be lucky (as the luck falls out).
6 is a collar badge of a Volunteer Battalion of the Royal Fusiliers, what appears to be a coronet is the Victorian Crown.

[High Wood]

No 2 is an Indian badge and the script is Devanagari, in this case Hindi but also used for Nepali.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devanagari

[engr9266]

Originally Posted by High Wood

No 2 is an Indian badge and the script is Devanagari, in this case Hindi but also used for Nepali.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devanagari

Also it it Artillery (7 flames)
Jerry

[GTB]

No. 1 is RN Mess Dress (Squires), silver mounted on gilt. The separate crown is a Naval Crown and may possibly be detached from one of the above types of button. Have a look at the back

GTB

[Wmr-RHB]

Originally Posted by High Wood

No 2 is an Indian badge and the script is Devanagari, in this case Hindi but also used for Nepali.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devanagari

सर्वत्र : sarvatr : everywhere : ubique

[TomPC]

Originally Posted by Wmr-RHB

सर्वत्र : sarvatr : everywhere : ubique

Genius! Thank you. I've tried every possible Google combination of Devanagari Savtr Savatra सर्वत्र Hindi India scroll motto Artillery Engineers Vietnam Nepal Thailand Burma Myanmar but I can't find any pictures of another one like it anywhere. So much for 'everywhere'

[TomPC]

Originally Posted by GTB

No. 1 is RN Mess Dress (Squires), silver mounted on gilt. The separate crown is a Naval Crown and may possibly be detached from one of the above types of button. Have a look at the back

GTB

Ah, thank you. I've had a look at the back of the loose crown. It's certainly rounded as if to fit a button and there are two tiny dimples on the back.

[TomPC]

Originally Posted by engr9266

Also it it Artillery (7 flames)
Jerry

Thank you - how many flames do Engineers have?

[TomPC]

Originally Posted by leigh kitchen

1- Merchant Navy?
4 is a regimental "medal" of some kind to the Lancashire Fusiliers, the back perhaps bearing engraved name of recipient and / or event such as shooting or a sport..
5 is a sweetheart brooch, Royal Fusiliers, the horseshoe being a common feature of many regimental sweethearts.
It symbolises good luck although the shoe being that way up is sometimes held not to be lucky (as the luck falls out).
6 is a collar badge of a Volunteer Battalion of the Royal Fusiliers, what appears to be a coronet is the Victorian Crown.

Thanks Leigh. Particularly for your ID of 6.

[TomPC]

Originally Posted by Deejayuu

item 3 is not GH, check the date. 1885 means its the 19th Hussars. GH has 1875. WM badge is the standard cap badge the GM badge would be wwi economy though it would need checking out.

Thanks DJU.

Sometimes after posting idiot things on here I just want to crawl into a dark corner and cry! I'd completely forgotten the 19th Hussars' 'A' badge! I always have them in the back of my mind as elephants!

[leigh kitchen]

19th Hussars - the elephant in the room.......

[Wmr-RHB]

Originally Posted by TomPC

Genius! Thank you. I've tried every possible Google combination of Devanagari Savtr Savatra सर्वत्र Hindi India scroll motto Artillery Engineers Vietnam Nepal Thailand Burma Myanmar but I can't find any pictures of another one like it anywhere. So much for 'everywhere'

From the Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regime...illery_(India)):

Motto: Sarvatra Izzat-o-Iqbal (Everywhere with Honour and Glory)

I left out the last 'a' in my transcription because last 'a's are not pronounced in Hindi (but they are in Sanskrit), but I guess that 'a' at the end should be in a strict transcription.
BTW, those who try to pronounce this: all 'a's here are short and more like in the utterance 'uh'.

[leigh kitchen]

Originally Posted by Deejayuu

item 3 is not GH, check the date. 1885 means its the 19th Hussars. GH has 1875. WM badge is the standard cap badge the GM badge would be wwi economy though it would need checking out.

There wasn't a WWI economy 19H (or Yorkshire Regt (Green Howards)) was there?