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Old 09-07-18, 09:06 AM
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Default Leeds Pals badge ...real or take !!!

...can anyone confirm if this ones genuine or take !! Thank you steve
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Old 09-07-18, 09:20 AM
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...can anyone confirm if this ones genuine or take !! Thank you steve
Fake I’m afraid Steve, most obvious area is the longer thin legs of the owls touching the shield.

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Old 09-07-18, 09:33 AM
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Thank you Gerard.
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Old 09-07-18, 09:39 AM
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...can anyone confirm if this ones genuine or take !! Thank you steve
Simon Longshanks has a nice example in an album you could compare it with, Steve:

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ictureid=79746

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Old 09-07-18, 10:47 AM
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Note the leaning Owl, when looking at Longshanks.
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Old 09-07-18, 11:08 AM
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Note the leaning Owl, when looking at Longshanks.
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Never noticed the leaning owl before. Is that a common feature among dodgy examples then, Andy? Looks like he's leaning out to see if the No. 49, to Monkswood Gate, is coming.

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Old 09-07-18, 12:49 PM
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Never noticed the leaning owl beofre. Is that a common feature among dodgy examples then, Andy? Looks like he's leaning out to see if the No. 49, to Monkswood Gate, is coming.

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Old 09-07-18, 10:32 PM
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Note the skinny poorly feathered legs of the budgie's two older brothers! PY.
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Old 10-07-18, 06:55 PM
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I don't think that is an example I would want to "take"

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Old 10-07-18, 07:01 PM
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I feel a bit rotten now. Poor ol’ Steve’s badge is getting a proper larruping.

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Old 10-07-18, 11:35 PM
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Long legged Budgies, flat shield, starved ram. Not one i would consider buying. Drunken owl to the top? Not a sign i would consider to be a fake as a genuine badge could easily be disformed to appear to be drunk. If you look closely at the badge you can see the top budgies perch has been bent causing the owl to lean forward, same could happen on a genuine badge. I`m not saying the drunken top owl is not the sign of a fake but it could also be a sign of a disformed genuine badge so look out for the other tells. Another big tell is if it is on a slider, Majority if not all genuine Leeds Pals are on lug.
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Default leeds pals

Just aquired this one. photo's don't do it justice as badge is a nice golden colour, but hope it might be a good badge for comparison...Well proportioned short legs, well proportioned ram and upright budgie ! Rear - well detailed mirror image of front.

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Here’s mine for comparison
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Another one in the ? box I've come across while sorting.

If the general opinion is that it's OK, I'll be moving it on so happy to take an offer.
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Hello Keith. Looks bad to me. Big owls heads incline inwards, lacks the 'proud chested' little owl, and ram's right as viewed horn goes out of the body area. Its not the obvious long legged big owl version. We had a new member a while back who got very defensive over this version, thinking it was only the long legged type that was bad. Regards, Paul.

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