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Old 26-08-17, 12:31 PM
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Default WW1- Rifle Bde and Post Office Rifles cap badge differences

Hello,

Please could anyone help with the following query:

Is it possible to tell the difference between a Rifle Brigade and an 8th London cap badge in old photographs- In other words, are there any telltale differences?

For example, I think the Rifle Brigade cap badge had more battle honours, but a quick google image search seems to me to show that this was not always the case. Not being very knowledgeable about such things, I thought I'd ask.

My reason for asking is that I have just got a postcard labelled as "possibly 13th Rifle Brigade", but I wondered if another possibility wasn't the 8th London Rgt, Post Office Rifles, in 1918. See attached.

Many thanks in advance,

Chris
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Old 26-08-17, 03:11 PM
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The cap badge could be either, All is not lost. He has black buttons so it likely to be RB.

What you need to do is identify the Divisional patch on the sleeve, The photo is circa 1918 so you will be able to see whether the PO Rifles were in that Div or not in 1918 and that will prove it.
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Old 26-08-17, 04:02 PM
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Definitely Rifle Brigade. On the RB badge the ends of the wreath are closer to the crown and much higher than the base of the crown. On the POR badge the ends of the wreath are well away from the crown and lower down.

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Old 26-08-17, 04:44 PM
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Old 26-08-17, 08:44 PM
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Wow! That's fantastic. Thanks very much gentlemen. What a subtle difference.

Many thanks,

Chris
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Old 27-08-17, 12:27 AM
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Best fit based on the traingle patch and using 'Infantry Divisions, Identification Schemes, 1917', Hibberd & Gibbs, seems to be the 12th or 13th Rifle Brigade. However, in each case a triangle should also come with bars / a company colour above or below. I don't doubt that he is wearing a Rifle Brigade cap badge, but the 8th P.O.R., in 1918, fits with the triangle patch better (if I am correct in thinking that the 8th Londons wore this at that time).

Another possibility is that the 60th MG Coy and the 60th TM Battery in the same Bde as the 12th RB wore the triangle on its own. Would a man posted to the 60th MG Coy, for example, still have his original cap badge or would he change to an MG Corps one?

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Chris

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