WW1 Tank Corps Officers Badge...real or fake?

[manchesters]

Originally Posted by 2747andy

Jock,
don't waste your money it is a piece of modern trash!

It is a poorly struck cast copy which is almost true to the original badges but has a spurious Makers Mark, the applied tank is seriously second class, it would more likely have been fitted with blades had it been genuine and the overlay is absolutely FANTASY!

If you go ahead and buy it then you are "Mad"!

Andy

I told you all of the above in post #4, but despite that you still wanted to buy it

[Jocktamson]

Originally Posted by manchesters

I told you all of the above in post #4, but despite that you still wanted to buy it

To many ifs and buts, was going to take a punt on it... but read through the other threads again and the majority of opinion was its a dud....oh well some you win some you lose.

[btns]

Originally Posted by Jocktamson

To many ifs and buts, was going to take a punt on it... but read through the other threads again and the majority of opinion was its a dud....oh well some you win some you lose.

Ask yourself a technical question:

Manufacturers make appliques separately in huge series and then solder them to other objects.
Does it make sense that an applique is cast together with such an object?
They would have to make a separate die, just for the back.

Manufacturers are in business to make money.
And so are fakers, casting badges using the lost-wax method.

[magpie]

They've used an original badge to make the mould which has the maker Mark cast in, it is not a separate tablet soldered on and is the same place on the originals.

[Jocktamson]

Thanks to everyone who gave their opinions on the badge, much appreciated.

[mshyres]

This is what has been described as a genuine cap badge- unless anyone has a different opinion

[JerryBB]

Originally Posted by mshyres

This is what has been described as a genuine cap badge- unless anyone has a different opinion

Do you really need to post this twice?

A fake as has already been said in the other thread, they never made this version.

[arrestingu]

badge is a copy.

[peter monahan]

Don't be afraid to say what you really think, Andy!

I agree, mind you - fantasy fake - but I'd not go as far as 'mad'.

"Soddin' politeness don't cost soddin' nuffink."

[2747andy]

Originally Posted by magpie

They've used an original badge to make the mold which has the maker Mark cast in, it is not a separate tablet soldered on and is the same place on the originals.

Andy,
I think it is worse than that? I have yet to see a genuine TC badge either OR's or officers, with the "Ring Spanner" track tensioners? Also the style of makers plate is one that appears on fakes! Just look at the awful detail to the crown ..

This is "Son of Fake"... a second generation repro.. The numpty that put this piece of garbage together, could not even be bothered to get an original badge to copy!

A BIG FAT FAKE!

Andy

[Roy]

Originally Posted by 2747andy

Andy,
I think it is worse than that? I have yet to see a genuine TC badge either OR's or officers, with the "Ring Spanner" track tensioners? Also the style of makers plate is one that appears on fakes! Just look at the awful detail to the crown ..

This is "Son of Fake"... a second generation repro.. The numpty that put this piece of garbage together, could not even be bothered to get an original badge to copy!

A BIG FAT FAKE!

Andy

Could be be a little clearer Andy, your post seems to somewhat hesitant and non comital....

Roy.

[2747andy]

Roy,
sorry for muttering!

A VERY BIG FAT FAKE!

[peter monahan]

Ah! Now I get it. You think, possibly and on balalnce, given the preponderance of evidence that there is a statistically significant chance that this may not be 100% genuine.

Sorry, was training to be a politician before I had the conscience implant done.

[Tanker Mike]

Does anyone have a real officers badge to show the difference?

[magpie]

Here you go even though it's on a picture frame