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Old 17-10-21, 07:58 PM
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Default WW2 NO 4 COMMANDO OFFICERS CRACKED SKULL SILVER CAP BADGE

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124945667...cAAOSw9ZdhYzss

I saw this on Ebay and just assumed it wasn't going to be right.
I would appreciate comments
Legit or bad feelings?
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Old 17-10-21, 08:41 PM
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It is not one of the Oryon miniatures made for the collector market?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/124070113884
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Old 18-10-21, 03:49 AM
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Not original - but please excuse me not disclosing why - fuel for fake makers.
Wrong in a whole lot of ways.
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Old 18-10-21, 07:21 AM
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Not original - but please excuse me not disclosing why - fuel for fake makers.
Wrong in a whole lot of ways.
Mike
Many thanks Mike.
I was not sure
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Old 18-10-21, 07:44 AM
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Many thanks Mike.
I was not sure
PM answered as requested as I know and trust you.
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Old 18-10-21, 04:26 PM
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I dont know why it is a fake ie. how much it differs from an original, but I think the lack of any patina in the eye sockets is a dead giveaway to the age
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Old 19-10-21, 07:06 PM
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As I said I believe it’s the Oryon badge which has been purposely ‘altered’ to deceive.

Note the same shape and irregularities to the inner borders of the IV. Also the nose is quite a distinct upside down heart shape.

The eBay badge has had the slider removed and by the looks of it the reverse scored with a drill to produce those vertical striations, presumably to conceal it’s true identity and remove all traces of the slider. Lastly some wire loops have been soldered on and it’s been aged up.

The reverse of an unaltered Oryon badge can be seen here…
https://www.militarycollectibles4u.n...e/#description

My tuppence worth as a non-SF collector.
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Old 19-10-21, 07:40 PM
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As I said I believe it’s the Oryon badge which has been purposely ‘altered’ to deceive.

Note the same shape and irregularities to the inner borders of the IV. Also the nose is quite a distinct upside down heart shape.

The eBay badge has had the slider removed and by the looks of it the reverse scored with a drill to produce those vertical striations, presumably to conceal it’s true identity and remove all traces of the slider. Lastly some wire loops have been soldered on and it’s been aged up.

The reverse of an unaltered Oryon badge can be seen here…
https://www.militarycollectibles4u.n...e/#description

My tuppence worth as a non-SF collector.
Many thanks for your help. You are right
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Old 20-10-21, 11:31 AM
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Not the first one of these fakes to hit the market
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File Type: jpg FAKE EBay £96 May18-001.jpg (33.4 KB, 36 views)
File Type: jpg FAKE Ebay £214 Dec17-003.jpg (29.6 KB, 42 views)
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Old 20-10-21, 11:33 AM
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and this one. Note genuine title to suck you in
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Old 20-10-21, 01:35 PM
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Shockers Belly. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 21-10-21, 07:14 AM
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I was once fortunate to handle an original the collector got it from his father who was the gardener of the 4 Commando Officer there was also a
Desk top Silver cigarette box with the same badge afixed to the lid.
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Old 21-10-21, 02:34 PM
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I was once fortunate to handle an original the collector got it from his father who was the gardener of the 4 Commando Officer there was also a
Desk top Silver cigarette box with the same badge afixed to the lid.
Hello Michael
I believe the cigarette box and badge featured in a Military Historical Society article many years ago. From memory, it was treasured by the daughter of the first CO of the unit. A lovely attributed item.
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Old 21-10-21, 02:36 PM
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The badge has just been relisted on E Bay !!
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Old 21-10-21, 08:43 PM
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The badge has just been relisted on E Bay !!
Probably part of a job lot unfortunately.
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