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And yet....ask a Ukranian or Syrian refugee if they would care to live in Luton and I'm sure that the response will be uniformly positive. Its all relative
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Given the choice between Luton or Ukraine right now is rather stating the obvious. Getting stabbed or mugged or burgled in Luton is preferable to being blasted to death by the craziest nut job since Hitler. That doesn't make Luton any less of a shithole.
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Luton sounds like quite the place. So close to London as well. Perusing google maps and streets, it just does not "look" the part though. I suppose it is many of the residents themselves, not really the physical appearance of the town to a great degree, unlike here in the US wherein the appearance matches the reputation.
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I could show you some lovely choice places in London that would give Luton a run for its money , I’ve worked all over London, Luton and many more places besides, like a lot of places you’ve got lovely areas and then literally just turn down the next street and you’re in a different world altogether
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I'd would rather visit Jaywick than visit Luton again. I live in an area of Essex that is considered by many to be a s**t hole but I always say 'at least it isn't Basildon' we just have to put up with all their scum and drug dealers coming in at night to wreak their havoc.
I'd rather live here than back in Southend on Sea, or anywhere in Thurrock too. Southend may be a city now but its a run down dump with a corrupt council and absolutely nothing to visit for unless you enjoy sitting in traffic. One thing it does have is one of the highest numbers of speed cameras on a single road (A127) than anywhere else I have ever been.
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I don't know of the social issues that plague some of these towns, but even Jaywick might look somewhat inviting in the sun.
My initial thoughts on these utoob presentations were that journalistic license or shock value is often being used, whilst the visual depictions themselves seemed not to agree. At any rate, what with the world it is today and mounting costs of everything, I am not likely to be visiting anywhere. CB
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This may give an idea of the comparison that I thought of. Surely, nowhere in the UK is like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF0Xw2cC_cU CB
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And it's not getting any better; the pernicious effects are worryingly pervasive and nothing short of terrifying. It saddens me to say that I could take you right now to areas of east London that would shock the bejesus out of you. |
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I am friends with a retired Detroit policeman who walked a beat his entire career. Some of the stories he told me are almost unbelievable! Every city or town is going ot have it "shady" section, but there are some places I truly would not want to live. But I'm a small town boy anyway!
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There are two England's. One, the country side and village's, the other are the towns and city's. I have returned to the UK, many times since we left in 1964.The country side has not changed at all, somehow our rented car always pulled into a country pub there's nothing like it in the world. Most of my family still live in the same area they were born in, they moan about the living conditions, congestion on the roads and the weather. If I came from Luton or the equivalent dump, I would make an effort to move my family out of it. Perhaps some of these people who complain that they have lived there all their lives and can't do anything about it, should read Alan Sugars books, you cant feel sorry for people who don't help themselves.
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Well, I found this video. It is indeed dismal and even approaches some of the worst in the US! I was unaware of such areas in London. But there are people all around.
Graffiti is a world wide disease which I cannot understand. We have no blighted areas in San Francisco such as this and other cities in the US, but graffiti has of late been more visible. Indeed, the country villages in the UK are beautiful beyond description from what I see. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qI-sKmvu0Y CB
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