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Old 16-02-09, 03:28 PM
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Default 14th Bn CEF/R Mtl Regt cap badges

Can any one point out the differences, if any, between the 14th Bn cap badge and that of its NPAM successor, The Royal Montreal Regiment. I have been told by one person that the difference is in the makers: Gaunt produced the 14th Bn badge while Scully made the R Mtl Regt ones, at least up to and perhaps including the Second World War. Someone else informed me that he 14th Bn badge was brass/gilding metal while the R Mtl Regt one was bimetal. Perhaps I'm getting forgetful in my old age, but I do not recall ever seeing one in bimetal, in spite of Mazéas's assertion that this was the case.
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Old 16-02-09, 03:39 PM
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'morning Wyn. I'm repeating what Vern Murray(who used to be in charge of the RMR museum) told me....that the 14th Bn.(14-18) was bronze for all ranks. The "brass/gm" KC was worn post 1920 up to 1953'ish by the or's. Also,that the RMR was proud of the fact that the officers wore the same br/gm badge as the or's during WW2. Never in all my talks with Vern Murray was any mention made of Scully's made badges.
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Old 16-02-09, 03:48 PM
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Important question(s) Wyn. There was some stuff going around about the "dots" between the motto being a characteristic to determine the date, but I can't remember which was which.
The only bi-metal badge in my understanding is the officer's badge. And my understanding is that the officer's badge was only well after WW1 and on. (See the Royal Montreal Regiment badges in the Canadian Badge Registry.)
Jo, I stand to be corrected on this, and I will have a look, but I think I have Scully marked R M R badges.

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Old 16-02-09, 03:50 PM
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'morning Bill, you could be right about this. I'll be waiting for your informations on this.
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Old 22-02-09, 04:52 PM
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I will consult with my friend who is former Adjutant of the RMR and a keen collector of its badges.
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Old 22-02-09, 11:27 PM
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Default RMR badge WW1

I actually have one of these which I am just about to list on epay. From what I have been told by a badge dealer about two days ago who knows more then I do. The WW1 era badge does not have the dots in between the wording around the centre of the badge. Also the "tonge" at the bottom of the garter is much more pronounced than on the WW2 version. I hope this helps
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