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Old 30-06-16, 11:09 AM
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What a week this has been. I have been on this Earth for a long time and at the least have found politics a tedious interruption into my life. However, I have been watching the news channels 24/7 this week with the twists and turns, plots, intrigues, civil war, the get Boris campaign ( who has moved from favourite to a non contender!). My only regret or worry is that the 1st July is being pushed a little out of the limelight. There have been some really moving and heart warming stories relating to the Somme battle. Today, we read of two grandsons of soldiers who fought in the battle (one died saving the other) meeting for the first time. We are living in momentous times....edge of the seat stuff!
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Boris has announced he wont be running for the Tory Leadership. I think he may try again when the current confusion over the future of the UK becomes clearer.

We certainly live in interesting times ( to say the least ).


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Old 30-06-16, 12:41 PM
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It's better than House of Cards, or it would be if it didn't involve our future. Interesting times indeed. Times like this I miss working at Westminster.
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BoJo the Clown has chickened out of running for leader of the Conservatives, and possibly the next Prime Minister? Why am I not suprised?

A man who used the Referendum to try and further his political career, never dreaming that the anti-Europeans would win. Reporters stood on his doorstep to find out which way he would go in the referendum, which gives an idea of how Brexit he really was.

My own view is that Johnson hoped the remain side would win, but that a high % of the Euro Sceptic Conservatives would back him as next Prime Minister.

Now the deed is done and Johnson is getting the hell out of the firing line before the people realise the consequences of the referendum result.

I wonder what the people in Port Talbot think now that the Brexit vote has stalled their jobs being saved? Or the people in Cornwall and Yorkshire who are looking to Westminster to replace the money that the EU has been giving them for years.

http://news.sky.com/story/1717526/re...-lost-eu-funds
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Actually, not that it makes much difference, Cornwall voted to leave the EU 56.5% to 43.5%, on a 77% turn out - a greater 'leave' percentage than the UK as a whole. Shows what they felt about European funding.

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Actually, not that it makes much difference, Cornwall voted to leave the EU 56.5% to 43.5%, on a 77% turn out - a greater 'leave' percentage than the UK as a whole. Shows what they felt about European funding.

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Conversely it could show that they didn't fully realise the consequences of what they were doing?

Either way, do you honestly think that London will have the spare cash to replace the aid given to the regions by the EU? I don't, and neither do people who are more in the know than either you or I:

"George Osborne parks emergency Brexit budget - but warns UK faces recession and brutal austerity" However, he is passing the buck to the next administration. You know, the one that BoJo the Clown just bodyswerved being leader of:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...terity-8291176

I think that we have had a lucky escape because Johnson was a complete disaster as Mayor of London, and we are lucky to be shot of the egocentric self publicist:

http://www.lbc.co.uk/james-obrien-sl...n-power-133099
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Conversely it could show that they didn't fully realise the consequences of what they were doing?

Either way, do you honestly think that London will have the spare cash to replace the aid given to the regions by the EU? I don't, and neither do people who are more in the know than either you or I:

"George Osborne parks emergency Brexit budget - but warns UK faces recession and brutal austerity" However, he is passing the buck to the next administration. You know, the one that BoJo the Clown just bodyswerved being leader of:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...terity-8291176

I think that we have had a lucky escape because Johnson was a complete disaster as Mayor of London, and we are lucky to be shot of the egocentric self publicist:

http://www.lbc.co.uk/james-obrien-sl...n-power-133099
I think we have been through all this on another thread, so let's just 'let it be' and return to badges.
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What's this European funding that we in Cornwall are the lucky recipients of? As I understand it as net contributors we are getting some of our own money back.

So many lies and misinformation from the remain side.
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What's this European funding that we in Cornwall are the lucky recipients of? As I understand it as net contributors we are getting some of our own money back.

So many lies and misinformation from the remain side.
Your own council are on the remain side?

Maybe they are just wondering how they are going to balance the books?
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BoJo the Clown has chickened out of running for leader of the Conservatives, and possibly the next Prime Minister? Why am I not suprised?

A man who used the Referendum to try and further his political career, never dreaming that the anti-Europeans would win. Reporters stood on his doorstep to find out which way he would go in the referendum, which gives an idea of how Brexit he really was.

My own view is that Johnson hoped the remain side would win, but that a high % of the Euro Sceptic Conservatives would back him as next Prime Minister.

Now the deed is done and Johnson is getting the hell out of the firing line before the people realise the consequences of the referendum result.

I wonder what the people in Port Talbot think now that the Brexit vote has stalled their jobs being saved? Or the people in Cornwall and Yorkshire who are looking to Westminster to replace the money that the EU has been giving them for years.

http://news.sky.com/story/1717526/re...-lost-eu-funds
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Your own council are on the remain side?

Maybe they are just wondering how they are going to balance the books?
So it would appear that the council aren't representing the views of the people they serve.
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Well, Gove knifed him in the front; at least Corbyn must have breathed out for having a half a news cycle not devoted to his overthrow. Whatever colour rosette you select, our politics are, at the moment, as Clint Eastwood says in the TV version of Heartbreak Ridge "a clusterfunt".

Truisms of Tory Party leadership elections since 1975: the frontrunner never wins; and the lead back stabber never wins either.
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Your own council are on the remain side?

Maybe they are just wondering how they are going to balance the books?
The whole point I was making is that any money that comes back into the country was passed to the EU by us. The EU doesn't generate money so has none to give. What part of net contributor are you having difficulty with?

The lies and misinformation comes from the remain side who would have us believe the EU is like a benevolent fund.
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So it would appear that the council aren't representing the views of the people they serve.
Bean counters are counting beans and find that they will not have enough of them.

That is the result of peoples views, and the consequences.
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The whole point I was making is that any money that comes back into the country was passed to the EU by us. The EU doesn't generate money so has none to give. What part of net contributor are you having difficulty with?

The lies and misinformation comes from the remain side who would have us believe the EU is like a benevolent fund.
See if you are still saying that in a year or two.

In particular when we are like Norway, paying more in to the EU per person than the UK does (did?) and having to follow all the EU directives without having a say in framing them.

In passing, when we have to negotiate a deal with the EU what sort of an idiot insults them? If Farage felt the need the least he could have done was waited two years.
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