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29-08-14, 02:09 PM
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Opinions on WAAC
Hi guys
I have this WAAC badge, and would appreciate opinions on authenticity! It has the prerequisite "J R Gaunt - London" on the top leaves, and what I assume is solder remains at bottom where there would, presumably, have been a numbered plate. Thanks Colin
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29-08-14, 02:46 PM
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I thinks it is a cap, but the numbered plate seems to have been removed or fell off.
Simon.
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29-08-14, 03:22 PM
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Cheers Colin
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29-08-14, 03:24 PM
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You reckon it's ok? Looks very similar to yours, minus the plate. Colin
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29-08-14, 03:35 PM
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yes, I think OK. Has the Gaunt mark and as I say, the residue of braze where the plate went.
Simon,
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29-08-14, 04:54 PM
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I'm not 100% but seem to recall seeing somewhere that the ladies who served with the WAAC had officer status and as such wore Service Dress! I believe like most other OSD badges the cap badges had blades and the matching collar badge were the same size but lugged, hence my initial reply!
Andy
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29-08-14, 05:20 PM
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I think there was an article in the Crown Imperial magazine on the WAAC`s with illustrations of badges. I will see if I can find it .
P.B.
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#9
29-08-14, 05:22 PM
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Yes, I've read that too somewhere on here I think Andy. It may be the case, my only comment is that numbered collars is something not seen anywhere else, even officers grade.
Here's mine. http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=79232 The other thing is, I've never seen a set with matching numbered badges being sold anywhere, if these are collars. Unless someone has seen some in the past. Maybe need someone with some other info to confirm, with some W/O orders etc. Regards Simon.
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#10
29-08-14, 05:52 PM
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The article on WAAC`s was in Crown Imperial No 94 of Spring 1999, the article by Martin Brayley entitled "Les Tommettes- British Army Female Auxiliaries " was illustrated but with no specific photos of badges.
Mention of a WAAC Forewoman ( NCO) suggests that not all members had officer status. P.B.
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#11
29-08-14, 06:06 PM
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Was it only guant who numbered the badges and why?
Andy 
Last edited by magpie; 24-05-15 at 06:01 AM.
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#12
29-08-14, 06:25 PM
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This may shed some light;
From Google The WAAC was divided into four sections: Cookery; Mechanical; Clerical and Miscellaneous.. The women in the WAAC did not have full military status. They enrolled, they did not enlist, and breaches of discipline were dealt with by civil, not military, courts. The grades (ranks) were divided into Controllers and Administrators (the officers) and Members (the other ranks). Within the Members there were forewomen (sergeants), assistant forewomen (corporals) and workers (privates). And from The history learning site; The WAAC had no officer ranks to it – a result of British Army tradition that had assumed that only men would veer get a commission. Instead, the WAAC had controllers and administrators. NCO’s were replaced by forewomen. Inevitably, given the structure of society at the time, the controllers were from middle/higher class backgrounds and the NCO’s from what would be deemed a working class background. So, definetly not a rank system as such, but an adapted grade system, probably reflected in uniform and maybe in badge (blades vs lugs) ? Colin
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#13
29-08-14, 07:11 PM
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You may be getting mixed up with FANY. The FANY (no sniggering Canadian members) are not commissioned but have officer status. The WAAC were drawn from all classes and employed in often mundane tasks.
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#14
29-08-14, 08:32 PM
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I think the WAAC and the QMAAC which they became wore a Dress with shoulder titles and only a cap badge - Do not know about the 'officer' class
  http://www.photodetective.co.uk/WAAC.html 
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#15
30-08-14, 03:51 PM
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Hi
With regards to the officer badge theory I picked this one up it came with the womans MIC belonged to a Administration Assistant which is lugged not bladed hope it helps. Can the number on the back of the badge be traced to an individual or was it how many had been made up to that particular time???? Paul Last edited by Major Dundee; 30-11-14 at 05:58 PM.
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