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Old 03-05-21, 10:35 AM
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Hi Guys

Ticked another box for my small WW1 collection, the cap badge of the SA Signal Service Royal Engineers. I have had the shoulder title for some time but the cap badge has eluded me.

Both made by Gaunt London.

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Old 03-05-21, 10:43 AM
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Nice badges, well done!
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Old 03-05-21, 03:27 PM
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Very nice, Brian and getting much harder to get hold of these days, shall you be having the other variations of the cap badges too?
Their medals are quite scarce as well, just humble BWM/AVM South African UDF issue pairs or trios if the recipient had prior service in GWSA with another formation, but the former always nicely named to the signal service.


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Hi Guys

Ticked another box for my small WW1 collection, the cap badge of the SA Signal Service Royal Engineers. I have had the shoulder title for some time but the cap badge has eluded me.

Both made by Gaunt London.

Brian
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Old 03-05-21, 03:45 PM
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Very nice, Brian and getting much harder to get hold of these days, shall you be having the other variations of the cap badges too?
Their medals are quite scarce as well, just humble BWM/AVM South African UDF issue pairs or trios if the recipient had prior service in GWSA with another formation, but the former always nicely named to the signal service.
Hi Frank

Here is a rather pleasant MM group to the SA Signals RE unit in my collection.

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Very nice, Brian and getting much harder to get hold of these days, shall you be having the other variations of the cap badges too?
Their medals are quite scarce as well, just humble BWM/AVM South African UDF issue pairs or trios if the recipient had prior service in GWSA with another formation, but the former always nicely named to the signal service.
Hi Frank

Always keeping my eyes open for WW1 badges, yes definitely if other variations pop up I would be interested.

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Old 03-05-21, 03:59 PM
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It is so often missed, the top scroll will sometimes be South African rather than South Africa, but worth looking out for.


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Always keeping my eyes open for WW1 badges, yes definitely if other variations pop up I would be interested.

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Old 03-05-21, 04:01 PM
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That is indeed very pleasant!

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Here is a rather pleasant MM group to the SA Signals RE unit in my collection.

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Old 03-05-21, 04:13 PM
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It is so often missed, the top scroll will sometimes be South African rather than South Africa, but worth looking out for.
Thanks Frank

Will keep that variation in mind...
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It is so often missed, the top scroll will sometimes be South African rather than South Africa, but worth looking out for.
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I had not noticed that before so went and had a check and spot on variations with South Africa and South African.

Thank you for sharing your insight.

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Brian, attached image shows a variant of the shoulder title (perhaps officers) and the badge with "South African".
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Old 04-05-21, 11:45 AM
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Brian, attached image shows a variant of the shoulder title (perhaps officers) and the badge with "South African".
Thanks for the pic showing the variation, interesting did the shoulder title come blackened like that?

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Old 05-05-21, 08:53 AM
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Yes, you encounter both with the ranker's cap badges in both sizes too, so four different badges there, the OSD's are to be had with both Africa and African too, but, I don't think that I've encountered both in HM silver, only one and I can't remember which without checking.


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I had not noticed that before so went and had a check and spot on variations with South Africa and South African.

Thank you for sharing your insight.

Rgds

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Thanks for the pic showing the variation, interesting did the shoulder title come blackened like that?

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Brian it is actually a dark enamel ... the picture doesn't really do it justice. To the reverse makers name Gaunt.
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Old 06-05-21, 07:44 AM
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I would certainly think that has actually been subsequently added at some point, rather than being deliberately manufactured, if it had been you would expect to encounter them in a significant number.

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Brian it is actually a dark enamel ... the picture doesn't really do it justice. To the reverse makers name Gaunt.
Yes, both mine are by Gaunt, suspect they were all made by them? Interesting point that this one has been enameled, have to definitely concur with Frank that it was privately done. Yes never seen another, a late friend of mine had an album of pictures of WW1 SA guys taken in uniform...believe me there are a lot of uniform variations and combinations of insignia worn during that period.

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