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Old 21-12-11, 05:49 PM
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Default General Enlistment Cap Badges CEF Varieties

Hello,

I know there are several varieties of the GE Badge CEF.

I would like to the specific varieties as cataloged as per CROSS.

Can someone post the different varities of each.

I have a Type E but have several others in my collection but don't the specific as per CROSS.

if you can help it would be appreciated!

Thanx in advance!

Rob


I have identified Type E as Type 4

I have in the display case PW Ellis 1914 MM Roden Bros Toronto 1918 MM

The one on the far right is according to the shape diagram Type 6 star shape which is solid but not a smooth back.

Thanks Bill

For putting this together I am sure it will assist others in identifying the many varieties!

I will put up a post regards to 10-3 Scarce variety with details later today!

Merry Christmas
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Old 23-12-11, 08:44 PM
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Hi Rob, Could you post an image of the badges to get us started?
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Old 23-12-11, 09:07 PM
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Hello,

I will post tomorrow!

Merry Christmas!

Rob
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Old 23-12-11, 11:45 PM
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Default Album started

I have started an album of all the different types of Cdn General List badges (Maple Leaf Type) badges I have acquired to date.

I have uploaded images of 13 different variations of what I refer to as type 2 common badges. After the weekend I will upload varieties of the other types as indicated in the album.

Comments welcome. I am still astounded that there are so many, almost an endless number of variations. I know there are even more out there. Would be eager to see variations not listed here!

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Hi Bill, I just messaged you and commended you such detailed research. Well done.

I have to say with what I see in general of Canadian badges; quite daunting to embark on a collection in genral; with so many variants on not only this service badge but also the regiments and battalions for WW1

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Old 24-12-11, 02:12 PM
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I have started an album of all the different types of Cdn General List badges (Maple Leaf Type) badges I have acquired to date.

I have uploaded images of 13 different variations of what I refer to as type 2 common badges. After the weekend I will upload varieties of the other types as indicated in the album.

Comments welcome. I am still astounded that there are so many, almost an endless number of variations. I know there are even more out there. Would be eager to see variations not listed here!

Merry Christmas to all.


Thanks again Bill well done on short notice!

This will be recognized as a Blitzkrieg action

Yew are to be commended and will be mentioned in dispatches!

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Old 24-12-11, 02:26 PM
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Good work Bill. The variations are nearly endless.
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I wanted to show this group I have which includes a (type 7) general list cap badge. All items are attributed to CSM A. R. Mustard who was an original of the 161st battalion ending up with the 47th. He joined up in July of 1916 and I have always assumed that the general list badge would have been the first one he received. I got all these items from the soldiers daughter and am quite certain these were all his. These are some of very few badges in my collection that I can attribute to a specific soldier and I am quite pleased to have them.

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Old 28-12-11, 10:13 PM
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A very nice grouping Bob, you should be pleased with it. Do you know if that General List badge is maker marked?
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Old 29-12-11, 12:40 AM
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Nice Bob,

Nice to see it altogether far from common these days.

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Old 29-12-11, 01:17 AM
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Default Updated the album (Type 3 badges)

Update to my album of General List badges.Have added a comparison of type 2 and 3 collars as well as the the varieties of type 3 cap badges I have (the Caron bros design).

As mentioned in the album neither the type 2 or type 3 leaf design seem to have specifically matched design of collar, or at least none I have found to date. (whereas, the type 4-7 have easily identifiable mates).

Type 3 badges, the slender-tapered leaf, I have only seem to be of the Caron Bros and similar unmarked die varieties. Again if anyone else has additional die varieties of this type I would enjoy seeing them posted here.
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Old 29-12-11, 06:43 AM
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Thanks for the kind words about the framed badges. The general list cap badge is marked W Scully Montreal. Great job on the album Bill. I've included some photos of other general list badges I have. The unmarked cap badge in the first photo is a very well made and detailed badge. It is interesting to see the different patina/finish on very similar badges nearly 100 years after they were made. All badges in the photos have east west lugs.

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Old 30-12-11, 12:05 AM
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Bob,

I got told by a olde tyme collector the GE badge by Birks 1915 is a scarce variety for some reason!

I think I know why now Bill and Bob have the bulk of them!

Nice to see the different variants of this badge some seem more common than others!

Considering 1914 is not to far off!

Happy New Year!

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Old 30-12-11, 12:24 AM
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Hi Rob,

I don't think the Birks marked variety is a scarce badge at all. The Roden badge by far is the most common of the maker marked type 2, followed closely by Ellis. The Geo Lees and Birks are less common but I would say going from my own very informal census more common than ANY of the unmarked type 2's. The badge I have listed as Type 2-M is very scarce, maybe rare, as it is only the second one I have seen with that unusual style banner.

In light of some recent ebay auctions and prices for CEF badges, those newbies thinking of getting into CEF might consider General List badges? Still very inexpensive and a great multitude of die varieties and finishes available. Wait until i post my assortment of type 6 badges. Frankly I sort of gave up on these since it seemed that no two badges were alike!?!?
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Old 30-12-11, 12:34 AM
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Thanks

For the info!

You should contact Larry to put these in the CEF gallery for reference for us all!

Both of you be commended for documenting the various varities I only have 4 types myself and would not be able to identify the varieties by type as easy as I can do other CEF badges!

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