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Unusual Rifle Brigade
Winding if any members seen or heard of the existence of a Rifle Brigade badge like this and potentially have some information?
It has the scroll and honour configuration of the earlier Edwardian badges but is closer in size to the smaller more and much common later KK705 with all the battle honours scrolls. Don’t have my large or standard versions to hand so I’ve pictured it next to the fsc for scale. Dimensions are W: 38mm, H:46mm. |
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I have the same badge on a long slider. It is the one worn on Brodricks.
The slider is often cut short. Dealers often sell them as 'pagri' badges due to long slider but I have never seen a photo of one on a FSH. I think they were replaced in 1910 by the standard one. My assumption is the sliders were cut short for wear on the khaki cap from 1906-10. Last edited by Alan O; 24-03-24 at 07:02 PM. |
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Agree with Alan definitely looks like the one worn on the Brodrick with the long slider , not one I’ve seen with loops , nice ?
Gerard
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Always interested in buying cap badges to the Middlesex Regt-Hertfordshire Regt-The Rifle Brigade |
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Sorry gents unless I’m missing something or perhaps my first post wasn’t clear the large Edwardian (W: 42mm H: 52mm) badge below is bigger than the one above.
My badge measures W: 38mm H: 46mm. As you can see it’s bigger than the fsc. My badge is about the size of the standard 1905* cap badge worn in WW1. Last edited by Luke H; 27-03-24 at 08:49 AM. Reason: Corrected date* |
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The badge in post #1 stood next to the ‘normal’ large Edwardian badge for the Brodrick cap.
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So headgear in order:
C 1898 FSC small badge QVC lugs 1902 FSC small badge KC lugs. 1903 Brodrick k/c 4 honours on wreath with a slider. 1906 peaked cap as above. 1910 peaked cap 14 honours on wreath k/c 1936 peaked cap k/c Prince Consorts own 1939 side cap as above c 1943 GS cap as above 1944 Plastic badge as an alternative. c 1947 beret as above and returns to metal c 1956-8 beret no honours Guelpheric crown Not sure where a smaller lugged badge with 4 honours fits in with this? |
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Like yours but I don`t have a clue what it was worn on,Perhaps a buckle? regards Gary
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Unusual Rifle Brigade
With that amount of missing loops I wonder whether it's a pouch badge?
Rob |
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I'll post an image later |
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** they had previously worn the pillbox cap. Last edited by Toby Purcell; 26-03-24 at 05:31 PM. |
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There is also a 20 honour pattern similar to the WW1 pattern. It exists for Officers at least.
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Rifle Brigade Sealed Patterns
The running order of RB badges 1894-1927 according to Julian’s research:
Sealed Patterns: 2325/1887 - glengarry, bronzed (KK588 / Gaylor, row B, [ii]) 2325A/1898 - renewal of above SP for FSH, bronzed (ditto above) 4091/1894 - FD service cap, WM (KK703 / Gaylor, row B, [iii]) 4091B/1902 - as above but KC, WM (KK704) 4091C/1904 - as above made 2 inches high, WM (Gaylor plate, row C, [i]) 4091D/1905 - Forage cap, additional honours, made smaller, WM (KK705 / Gaylor plate, row C, [ii]) 10192/1927 - change of pattern, Prince Consorts Own, WM (KK2019 / Gaylor plate, row C, [iii]) So unless J missed something, which I very highly doubt, there was no 1906 pattern. |
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Last edited by Toby Purcell; 27-03-24 at 09:55 AM. |
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Dating exact is tricky as you have the authority for the s/p for the badges which may or may not match up with the year that the hat changed and even then there may have been crossover not only with obsolete badges being worn on 'new' hats but also a supply issue between battalions especially when they are overseas. Add different ranks, militia, VB battalions into the mix and it does make dating a change impossible to narrow to a single year. |
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