NZ reinforcement Numerals wrongly described as Australian

[vigilans]

A Number of these numerals have appeared on ebay in the last couple of months, they are not Australian but in fact NZ reinforcement numerals....they are continually and wrongly described as Australian, generally Australian numerals fetch more money than NZ ones, Aussie ones are 20mm high and not the 13mmm that these are, you can see why they are listed as Au$$ie!!!!!!
I cannot contact the seller because he has banned me from buying due to a previous conflict ...... Brad you need to change the description

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AUSTRALIA...item19e7bca416

OR ebay item Number 111262082070

[blackdraggon11]

good info

[vigilans]

I quote
"From a hoard of military badges found in Bendigo, Victoria.
Sold as described."
As described on the listing eBay:http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AUSTRALIA...item19e858a690

But wait everyone check this out Trademe NZ...: http://www.trademe.co.nz/antiques-co...-692004587.htm

Brad you never cease to amaze me how naive you think we are.... do you honestly think anyone believes a thing you say, you have been buying these numerals on mass from New Zealand and selling them as Australian badges on eBay; nothing wrong with buying and selling...we all do that, but to describe them as Australian and then say they were found in Bendigo!!! not very truthful...eh?

Brad 126 = badgecollector = Shedfinds (ebay)....and others!

[NSW Military Forces]

Originally Posted by vigilans

I quote
"From a hoard of military badges found in Bendigo, Victoria.
Sold as described."
As described on the listing eBay:http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AUSTRALIA...item19e858a690

But wait everyone check this out Trademe NZ...: http://www.trademe.co.nz/antiques-co...-692004587.htm

Brad you never cease to amaze me how dumb you really are.... do you honestly think anyone believes a thing you say, you have been buying these numerals on mass from New Zealand and selling them as Australian badges on eBay; nothing wrong with buying and selling...we all do that, but to describe them as Australian and then say they were found in Bendigo!!! Bloody hell you are one of the most dishonest and dumb fuc*ers I have ever known

Brad 126 = badgecollector = Shedfinds (ebay)....and others!

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[vigilans]

Nicely cut and pasted....so you think I shouldn't expose fraudulent or dishonest/misleading information in order to assist the novice collector?
I feel I am duty bound to expose this type of behaviour. It’s exactly this that will eventually ruin the hobby here in Australia, just like it is doing in the UK.
Thanks for your opinion, but I believe you are quite wrong in this case.
However I have removed my last comment directed at this person, and I appologise for that (and I suggest NSW that you adjust my post that you have quoted)

Originally Posted by NSW Military Forces

Treat fellow posters with respect and courtesy. There will be a range of opinions on certain types of military insignia. Do not elevate discussions into personal arguments and/or attacks. Recognise the point of ‘no gain’ in a discussion and move on.



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[slick_mick]

I'm going to backup Vigilans on this one.

There are way too much fraudulent or dishonest behavior occurring in the badge and militaria collecting field. More should be done to stamp it out and I'm all in favour of helping collectors with the exposure of fraudulent activity.

Mick

[NSW Military Forces]

Originally Posted by vigilans

Nicely cut and pasted....so you think I shouldn't expose fraudulent or dishonest/misleading information in order to assist the novice collector?
I feel I am duty bound to expose this type of behaviour. It’s exactly this that will eventually ruin the hobby here in Australia, just like it is doing in the UK.
Thanks for your opinion, but I believe you are quite wrong in this case.
However I have removed my last comment directed at this person, and I appologise for that (and I suggest NSW that you adjust my post that you have quoted)

Yes this was cut and pasted from the forum rules; these are rules that I and every other member were required to read upon joining this forum. These rules were put in place to ensure every member is treated fairly and respectfully. What you have written on this public forum is inappropriate. These types of messages should probably be directed to the intended recipient via the PM feature. If as you have stated have/had conflict with this person it would be best that you rectify this between yourselves.
When accusing someone of being dishonest/fraudulent/misleading in the public arena one should always be able to back that up with documented proof. No documented proof is provided other that a clear dislike for the other forum member.

Badgecollector has many interesting posts I for one would not like to see this person stop providing pictures and posts on Australian badges.

If this person is selling titles that are mis-described this is not ruining the Australian military badge-collecting world. If on the other hand the badges were proved to be non genuine then that would have an effect on the market. Perhaps a better post and one that I would like to see is how/why these titles you have mentioned are not Australian issue but are infact NZ issue, since you seem passionate about this fact I am sure you would have some documented findings that everyone would be most grateful to see.

[vigilans]

Go away don't tell me whats what...you've been on this forum for five minutes and your greater than thou opinions are grinding my gears I am not the least bit interested in your opinion, you obviously have no idea..... either your his mate or you are him under another alais...so nick off

Originally Posted by NSW Military Forces

Yes this was cut and pasted from the forum rules; these are rules that I and every other member were required to read upon joining this forum. These rules were put in place to ensure every member is treated fairly and respectfully. What you have written on this public forum is inappropriate. These types of messages should probably be directed to the intended recipient via the PM feature. If as you have stated have/had conflict with this person it would be best that you rectify this between yourselves.
When accusing someone of being dishonest/fraudulent/misleading in the public arena one should always be able to back that up with documented proof. No documented proof is provided other that a clear dislike for the other forum member.

Badgecollector has many interesting posts I for one would not like to see this person stop providing pictures and posts on Australian badges.

If this person is selling titles that are mis-described this is not ruining the Australian military badge-collecting world. If on the other hand the badges were proved to be non genuine then that would have an effect on the market. Perhaps a better post and one that I would like to see is how/why these titles you have mentioned are not Australian issue but are infact NZ issue, since you seem passionate about this fact I am sure you would have some documented findings that everyone would be most grateful to see.

[NSW Military Forces]

Originally Posted by vigilans

Go away don't tell me whats what...you've been on this forum for five minutes and your greater than thou opinions are grinding my gears I am not the least bit interested in your opinion, you obviously have no idea..... either your his mate or you are him under another alais...so nick off

Very aggressive individual!
My length of time on this forum is not relevant.
Badgecollector is not my "Mate" nor am I him under another "Alais"
You dismiss others opinions because you lack the confidence in your own.
Perhaps you could just follow some simple forum rules.

[vigilans]

Re - read my last comment ..... Darren ..........NZ numerals... don't care if you found one in a pissy medal group....you are his mate

Originally Posted by NSW Military Forces

Very aggressive individual!
My length of time on this forum is not relevant.
Badgecollector is not my "Mate" nor am I him under another "Alais"
You dismiss others opinions because you lack the confidence in your own.
Perhaps you could just follow some simple forum rules.

[pukman]

I will leave the bun fight for others ,but here is my very small selection of NZ reinforcement numbers ,all varying sizes ,20(18mm),23(20mm)26(16mm),27(14mm) .None with makers marks .

[NSW Military Forces]

Originally Posted by vigilans

Re - read my last comment ..... Darren ..........NZ numerals... don't care if you found one in a pissy medal group....you are his mate

My last post on the subject as I feel that this is quite possibly making you unstable.

[vigilans]

Very funny Darren WTF have you joined this forum for? ... you obviously know it all! Prove me wrong Darren post the photo you have of the Aussie wearing one of these titles.

Originally Posted by NSW Military Forces

My last post on the subject as I feel that this is quite possibly making you unstable.

[NSW Military Forces]

Originally Posted by pukman

I will leave the bun fight for others ,but here is my very small selection of NZ reinforcement numbers ,all varying sizes ,20(18mm),23(20mm)26(16mm),27(14mm) .None with makers marks .

Great work seems to backup that these NZ Reinforcement numerals were not just 13mm in size.

[vigilans]

Darren I never said they were only 13 mm in size, I said that Aussie ones are all 20 mm or thereabouts "Aussie ones are 20mm high and not the 13mmm that these are"....read the text....where is that photo you reckon you have???? eh??

Originally Posted by NSW Military Forces

Great work seems to backup that these NZ Reinforcement numerals were not just 13mm in size.