POW Feathers

[Sonofacqms]

One of the hardest things I find, identifying positively POW feathers worn as cap badges, a recent addition, is it 15th London or Denbeigh Yeomanry or maybe something else?

Ideas please, many thanks

Rob

[JerryBB]

one of the two you said, some can it seems differentiate between the two, not me

[grenadierguardsman]

Wouldn't the 15th London's be blackened ?
Andy

[cbuehler]

I don't believe there is a difference between the 15th and Denbigh. As with the 10H and 3DG collar badges.

CB

[Luke H]

You are forgetting the Royal Wiltshire Yeomanry who also wore bronzed Gm plumes on khaki SD in 1914.

Indeed in the 1916 tenders document unearthed by Julian both the RWY and Denbigh Hussars cap badge orders have the SP numbers (8675/1916) i.e. they’re the same badge.

[cbuehler]

Originally Posted by Luke H

You are forgetting the Royal Wiltshire Yeomanry who also wore bronzed Gm plumes on khaki SD in 1914.

Indeed in the 1916 tenders document unearthed by Julian both the RWY and Denbigh Hussars cap badge orders have the SP numbers (8675/1916) i.e. they’re the same badge.

That is another possibility that I was long suspecting, but did not think they really could be same badge. Looks like that has been answered.

CB

[Alan O]

The DH and Wilts Yeo were bronzed whilst the 14th London was blackened. They are 2 very different badges of a similiar design.

[Sonofacqms]

When I said "something else" I was not sure about the Wiltshire Yeomanry, as you can see this is a gilding metal badge with what almost looks like a bronze finish, however, I think this is just the patina of an old G/M badge.

It does not seem to fall in with any of these ideas unless someone removed the blackening many years ago.

Thank you all for your replies.

Rob

[Luke H]

Quite honestly from looking at it I do definitely think it has a finish which has faded and worn off the high points through wear rather than being just heavily patina-ed GM.

[Luke H]

I’m sure he won’t mind be showing this for reference. The below badge belonged to Keith Hook’s uncle who joined the Civil Service Rifles in WW1 and served in France and Flanders.

[Sonofacqms]

I think my badge will be added to the Civil Service Rifles board, the finish is very similar to the one Luke has shown.

Rob

[leigh kitchen]

The one Luke shows appears to me to be blackened rather than bronzed?

[Luke H]

Sorry to disagree again Rob but I don’t think yours is CSR.

The Yeomanry were given an order to polish bronzed badges I’m told circa 1914, this likely explains many of the worn badge seen, like yours.

[Sonofacqms]

Luke, as I said in my first post I do find these POW feather badges difficult to pin down, so on the information I have already given this must be a Denbeigh Hussars badge with the bronze polished off as the Wiltshire Yeomanry wore a bi-metal cap badge.

Many thanks Rob

[cbuehler]

In this regard, I found this photo. If the coloring is correct, the DH wore exactly the same badges as the RWY along with the collars being the same as the 10H and 3DG.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denbig...ireHussars.jpg

CB