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Old 01-02-21, 09:22 PM
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I have seen a post 1923 Manchester Rgt Fleur-de-lys in white metal with the same makers mark on the slider. I understand the WM version is post-WW2?

As you'll know, the GM 1916 Norfolk Rgt you show is a fake die. It's not a restrike from an original die. It's a crude copy, a post-1937 die exhibiting none of the fine details seen on original pre-1937 Norfolk cap badges. Therefore the MM found on the slider married to it reinforces the view that this MM is just not right too, certainly with regards to this particular badge.
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Good to know, thank you, Tim
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Pioneer Corps / Royal Pioneer Corps. King’s Crown GM

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Queen's Royal Regiment (West Surrey) GM

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Oxfordshire & Buckinghamshire Light Infantry WM

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Revised list

MARPLES & BEASLEY \ BIRMINGHAM

15th Hussars
17th/21st Lancers WM
21st Lancers (VRI) KC GM
22nd Dragoons WM
26th Hussars GM
5th Inniskilling Dragoon Guards KC WM
9th Lancers KC WM
Army Air Corps KC WM
Artists Rifles WM
Duke of Cornwall’s Light Infantry WM
East Lancashire Regiment KC BIM
Glider Pilot Regiment KC WM
Hertfordshire Yeomanry GM
Highland Yeomanry QC WM
Home Counties Brigade WM
Intelligence Corps KC GM
Lanarkshire Yeomanry GM
Lancashire Fusiliers BIM
Manchester Regiment GM and in WM (fleur de lys)
Norfolk Regiment GM
North Irish Horse QC WM
Oxfordshire & Buckinghamshire Light Infantry WM
Palestine Police KC WM
Parachute Regiment KC WM
Pioneer Corps KC GM
Queen’s Own Yorkshire Yeomanry BIM
Queen's Royal Regiment (West Surrey) GM
Rifle Brigade KC WM
Royal Dragoons BIM
Royal Engineers KC GM
Royal Fusiliers 1st Judean Battalion GM
Royal Norfolk Regiment GM
Royal Ulster Rifles KC WM
South Staffordshire Regiment QC BIM
Special Air Service BIM
Staffordshire Yeomanry KC WM
Staffordshire Yeomanry QC WM
Welsh Regiment WM (2nd VB)
Westmoreland & Cumberland Yeomanry GM
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Now seen two of these Edwardian EviiR cypher badges with Marples & Beasley marks.

Clearly cast copies but not from Norfolk Yeomanry which were different and significantly larger!
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Cool Marples and Beasley sliders

This is an interesting thread which I seem to have overlooked, out of interest I decided to look at my records to see if I had any badges with this name on the slider.

Only one found, The Life Guards GviR with the note "slider replaced" beside it, so I suppose someone must have been repairing badges using these new sliders.

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As a result I have now weeded my 5th Inniskilling Dragoon Guards example - found on Tims original naughty list.

Great thread

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Hi Tim you may wish to add this to your list
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There seems to be a general consensus on the Forum that the maker mark MARPLES & BEASLEY over BIRMINGHAM should not appear on the sliders of 'other ranks' badges made in white metal (WM), gilding metal (GM) or bi-metal (BIM). The mark is therefore an indicator that the badge is not genuine (i.e. a fake or reproduction), or that it is perhaps a genuine badge and the mark has been added to provide spurious verisimilitude. There is also evidence that a good badge may have had a marked replacement slider added.

The following list (not exhaustive) is an attempt to cover badges that have been seen for sale and/or have been identified on this Forum in recent years.

MARPLES & BEASLEY \ BIRMINGHAM

15th Hussars
17th/21st Lancers WM
20th Hussars GM
21st Lancers (VRI) KC GM
22nd Dragoons WM
26th Hussars GM
5th Inniskilling Dragoon Guards KC WM
9th Lancers KC WM
Army Air Corps KC WM
Artists Rifles WM
Buffs GM
Duke of Cornwall’s Light Infantry WM
Edward VII cypher KC WM
East Lancashire Regiment KC BIM
Glider Pilot Regiment KC WM
Hertfordshire Yeomanry GM
Highland Yeomanry QC WM
Home Counties Brigade WM
Intelligence Corps KC GM
King Edward’s Horse KC WM
Lanarkshire Yeomanry GM
Lancashire Fusiliers BIM
Life Guards GVIR (replacement slider)
Manchester Regiment GM and in WM (fleur de lys)
Norfolk Regiment GM
North Irish Horse QC WM
Oxfordshire & Buckinghamshire Light Infantry WM
Palestine Police KC WM
Parachute Regiment KC WM
Pioneer Corps KC GM
Queen’s Own Yorkshire Yeomanry BIM
Queen's Royal Regiment (West Surrey) GM
Rifle Brigade KC WM
Royal Dragoons BIM
Royal Engineers KC GM
Royal Fusiliers 1st Judean Battalion GM
Royal Norfolk Regiment GM
Royal Ulster Rifles KC WM
South Staffordshire Regiment QC BIM
South Staffordshire (2nd VB) KC WM
Special Air Service BIM
Staffordshire Yeomanry KC WM
Staffordshire Yeomanry QC WM
Upper Thames Patrol GM
Welsh Regiment WM (2nd VB)
Westmoreland & Cumberland Yeomanry GM
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Another addition recently seen:

Upper Thames Patrol badge. All GM.
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Thank you, added to the updated list.

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Also seen today on eBay:

20th Hussars
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