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Old 23-07-15, 02:13 PM
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Keith,
name change c.1933 I believe?

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Old 23-07-15, 02:16 PM
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https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...page&q&f=false

Go to page 123 for the Cadet Bn's details. Westlake states that the Bn was disbanded in 1907.
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is it possible they became/formed part of Cranbrook Sch OTC?

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Old 23-07-15, 02:18 PM
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name change c.1933 I believe?

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Correct, here's Ticker Riley's history thread.

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ghlight=ludski

A revived Cadet Battalion maybe?
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Old 23-07-15, 03:19 PM
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An officer's cap badge was sold by Dix Noonan Webb in 2011.
It went with other Kent Cadet items for £400.

http://www.dnw.co.uk/auction-archive...s&lot_id=81321

I also have a history of the Cadet unit (cannot remember where it came from)...

1st Buffs Cadet Battalion 1894-1907
1894 4 companies at St George's Hall, Ramsgate>
1903 HQ moved to Margate>
1907 disbanded

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Old 23-07-15, 03:36 PM
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An officer's cap badge was sold by Dix Noonan Webb in 2011.
It went with other Kent Cadet items for £400.

http://www.dnw.co.uk/auction-archive...s&lot_id=81321

I also have a history of the Cadet unit (cannot remember where it came from)...

1st Buffs Cadet Battalion 1894-1907
1894 4 companies at St George's Hall, Ramsgate>
1903 HQ moved to Margate>
1907 disbanded

All the best,
Alan
Regarding the link:.

What were the Kent County Cadets? I have a 1|CADETS|ROYAL WEST KENT shoulder title, I wonder if goes with the Kent County Cadets badge or would it be the 1|CADETS|KENT title I mentioned earlier.

Fascinating thread this!

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Old 23-07-15, 05:06 PM
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Alan,
is it possible they became/formed part of Cranbrook Sch OTC?

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Cranbrook Cadet Corps formed Feb 1900 and was attached to the 1 Cadet Bn Buffs until Dec in the same year when it transferred to the 2VB.

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Correct, here's Ticker Riley's history thread.

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ghlight=ludski

A revived Cadet Battalion maybe?
Keith,
was there an image with the "Ludlow" marked badge? Seems strange for a post 1930's example of a unit disbanded over 20 years prior? If it was a resurrection, there's bound to be some reference somewhere?

Another mystery to throw in to the "Hobby Pot"!

Thanks all for the contributions so far!

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Old 23-07-15, 05:40 PM
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was there an image with the "Ludlow" marked badge? Seems strange for a post 1930's example of a unit disbanded over 20 years prior? If it was a resurrection, there's bound to be some reference somewhere?

Another mystery to throw in to the "Hobby Pot"!

Thanks all for the contributions so far!

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No, just the small postal auction photo with Ludlow mentioned in the description I'm afraid.
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Old 23-07-15, 07:05 PM
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Cranbrook Cadet Corps formed Feb 1900 and was attached to the 1 Cadet Bn Buffs until Dec in the same year when it transferred to the 2VB.

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It was a small Corps as shown by the 1911 record that shows that Cranbrook School OTC in 1911 had 3 officers and 45 o/cdts.

it became an OTC on 11.7.08. I have a OTC and a CCF badge but have not seen a pre1908 Cadet Corps badge. They may exist but more likely they wore Buffs badges.

The officers' badge shown was privately bought so I don't believe their was a cadet version.

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Old 23-07-15, 07:05 PM
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What an Agatha Christie mystery thread this is to read. Thanks to all who contributors and of course Andy for kicking it off with such a superb looking badge.

Would collar badges been worn or did such cadet battalions just have distinctive 1 C shoulder titles like a pair of 1 C Leicester ones that I have. I note collars for Church Lads Brigade of the KRRC or is that not comparing apples with apples.

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Old 23-07-15, 07:38 PM
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Ludski/Ludlow: http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ead.php?t=6299

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Old 23-07-15, 07:46 PM
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I can only speak about the Cadet Battalions of the Kings Liverpool Regiment who wore the same badges as the regular battalions. Officers in some photos are wearing the letter "C" below their collar badges in the same way that Territorial offices wore a "T" below their collar badges.

The cadet in this photo is wearing 1/C/Kings shoulder titles but at the top of his sleeve as his uniform has shoulder cords. His cap and collar badges are as the regular battalions.

This is a huge field which can be seen from Alan's albums and from the badge that started this thread and has hardly been touched in the past. Many years ago in the Sunday Times Colour Supplement a number of items of militaria were illustrated including an officers helmet plate of a Manchester Cadet battalion and I have often wondered which other cadet battalions had officers ( or even other ranks ) helmet plates, I certainly never seen or heard of a Liverpool example.

There is probably more information on Cadet insignia here on the Forum than elsewhere and it is great that it keeps on coming.

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Old 23-07-15, 07:47 PM
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Dean,
Many thanks for your comments, however I cannot help with respect to your collar badge question! What has unfolded in the space of a few short posts, is that this is probably a rather scarce even rare badge?

In the absence of any evidence of an OR's/cadet pattern badge, Alan may well be correct in his statement that this "1.C.B." Pattern was an "officer's" only badge?

Should that be the case, then there's probably only a very small amount in existence? Also a mystery so far is why Ludlow appear to have manufactured some c. Mid 1930's?

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Peter,

I have that Manchester Cadet Bn Helmet plate that you refer to and a few other related items. I will try and photo them tomorrow.

As regards cap badges I have 2 to the 1st CB Manchester Regiment. Both are OSD on blades and both different.

I have never seen any others at all.

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