"40 years of experience" says this is not a fake

[2747andy]

Yep! - It is a copy, but I refuse the tick he "Yup" box, as there are plenty of good badges available on ebay, just some bad sellers and a lot of buyers who do not do their research!

Andy

[DavidS]

Originally Posted by Unknownsoldier

Guessing he should have more actively spent 40 years trying not to write like a retarded hamster, and then tried his hand at badges..........

Tom

On behalf of retarded hamsters everywhere, I object! They are now so despondent over this slight, they can hardly spin their wheels at all. A spokes-hamster squeaked that "We're too slow to be dodgy!" He also added that they prefer the gentler term "maze challenged."

[Deejayuu]

This one i love http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ORIGINAL-1st-V...item3efa4badf2 chromed or plated volunteers other ranks badge?!?

[Unknownsoldier]

Originally Posted by Viletone

Pretty close to Marsh Militaria then. Coincidence?

Really... hmmmmmm I'll have to keep an eye out..... the GF works in Sandwich so..... maybe Ii'll take a morning wander in ;-)

As for the hamsters, my hammy's Chip and Dale are still spinning like mad... they are driving my badge press ready for Erics next "Find" ;-) LOL

Tom

[Mike_2817]

As with all Auctions 'Caveat Emtar' applies "Let the Buyer Beware"

Having a knowledge of your area of collecting helps

If you do not like the look of something - Dont bid on it.

Another saying is:

'A fool and his money are easily parted' [Read unknowable eBay bidders]

I buy very little on eBay these days, mainly becouse most of what I am looking for is like Rocking Horse droppings.

MikeC

[whizzbang]

Those Mancs VB badges are as funky as last week's fisherman's pie...

[kingsman]

Suggestion why don't forum members spend a nominal amount on one of his fakes and leave negative feedback if a goodly number of forum mambers do this then the unwary may be warned off.

[2747andy]

Rather than waste money, you can report the item to Ebay! If listed as genuine and it is clearly not, they will pull the listing!! Someone did this to me because I listed an RUC collar badge (hateful and discriminatory???). If this happens to him often enough (and he'll lose the listing fee) he might just get the message, not to use genuine or original in his listing!

Andy

[whizzbang]

Originally Posted by kingsman

Suggestion why don't forum members spend a nominal amount on one of his fakes and leave negative feedback if a goodly number of forum mambers do this then the unwary may be warned off.

I once tried that with one of the other famous e-bay sellers, plus I was interested to see what the fake looked like 'in hand'. The type was a CEF 49th like my current avatar. I wasn't going to pay more than the starting price and every time the badge came up (and it was often) someone outbid me! I finally gave up...

Cheers,

Ian.

[Recce]

Originally Posted by 2747andy

Rather than waste money, you can report the item to Ebay! If listed as genuine and it is clearly not, they will pull the listing!! Someone did this to me because I listed an RUC collar badge (hateful and discriminatory???). If this happens to him often enough (and he'll lose the listing fee) he might just get the message, not to use genuine or original in his listing!

Andy

Ok First I was compelled to read all the posts LMaooooo! I see the Ladies can get Nasty When a seller is trying to pull a fast one.

Mr Andy on both posts your right, But I tried many times to Logo Complains on EvilEbay sellers selling Fake and passing them of as the Real Deal,
I can assure EvilEbay did Nothing remove the Listings or warned them, for months the Sellers still Sold fakes as the Real Deal.
And the Buyers where giving the Sellers Great feedback.

So your right when you stated It's up to the Buyers to do there research and make sure a fast one is not being pulled on them.

Thanks for the Laughs Guys, I need It.

[Viletone]

Originally Posted by Recce

Ok First I was compelled to read all the posts LMaooooo! I see the Ladies can get Nasty When a seller is trying to pull a fast one.

Mr Andy on both posts your right, But I tried many times to Logo Complains on EvilEbay sellers selling Fake and passing them of as the Real Deal,
I can assure EvilEbay did Nothing remove the Listings or warned them, for months the Sellers still Sold fakes as the Real Deal.
And the Buyers where giving the Sellers Great feedback.

So your right when you stated It's up to the Buyers to do there research and make sure a fast one is not being pulled on them.

Thanks for the Laughs Guys, I need It.

Which ladies?

[Peter Brydon]

E bays first priority it to make money for itself ( I dont know if it is a company with shareholders to consider ) ,so if people are selling a load of c- -p on the site ( even if it is misrepresented ) and they are still getting their fees, then why should they either worry or do anything about it.

P.B.

After giving this some considerable thought, I have to say that despite the fact that some people ( I won`t call them collectors ) are happy to acquire non genuine badges this will eventually bring an end to our hobby in the future.

If the Fox glengarry badges have become acceptable to collectors with the passage of time, when cloth and metal non genuine items have acquired a patina or tone that comes with the passage of time,who is going to say what is genuine or not ?

[davec2]

Hello Peter,

You are right, in my opinion, on both counts, ebay's policies etc and as I've been banging on for ages, the newer " collectors " and the subject of, for example, ' Fox restrikes '.

Despite my continual defence of ebay, it doesn't follow that I am happy with un-original badges in my own collections, I know I have some but I do strive to buy only genuine badges.

Please read my comments earlier re the Fife and Forfar Yeo ( fakes, restrikes etc ), I followed the criteria that I thought would lead me to obtaining a genuine badge, now it has been delivered, I am uncertain about it.

I wonder, does it mean that the only certain way of purchasing genuine badges is to be face to face with the seller ? that is surely, very impractical !

Dave.

[Adam H]

The problem isn't ebay, the problem is the people that sell on it. Ebay provides a global, nearly anonymous venue for people to flog their wares, an ideal arrangement for the many myopic, greedy lugnuts that haven't a more clever way to make money.

Militaria collecting, in my experience, attracts a lot of weirdos, poseurs, wannabes and dishonest people, more than many other hobbies. It's unfortunate. However, there are fortunately still good people around, which is probably why we haven't packed it in quite yet.

I fear that P.B. is quite right that British badge collecting as we know it, may well be a doomed hobby due to the problem of fakery.

[whizzbang]

The issue of fakery and its effect on collecting is an interesting subject. I don't think it will necessarily mean the end of collecting but it has and will continue to impact collectors significantly. Some will give up or not start collecting in the first place, some will go to extremes to ensure they are buying quality items. Most of us will be in the middle somewhere, in part enjoying the challenge of finding genuine items and subject to fits of uncertainty after each purchase!

Cheers, Ian.