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Old 03-10-20, 11:29 AM
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I am looking to add a cap badge to compliment my Antrim RGA shoulder titles, though I am unsure of the exact pattern they would have worn.

Although I have read that the RGA wore the standard Royal Artillery cap badge, as a militia, would the Antrim’s have worn the badge with the silver M, or as they were also volunteers, would they have worn the volunteer pattern badge?
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Old 03-10-20, 01:58 PM
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As there were no Volunteer Corps in Ireland (until 1938), I assume you talk about:
1854: The Antrim Artillery Militia >
1882: 2nd Brigade North Irish Division, Royal Artillery >
1889 Antrim Artillery (Southern Division), Royal Artillery >
1902: The Antrim Royal Garrison Artillery (Militia) >
1908: The Antrim Royal Garrison Artillery (Special Reserve) >
1919: suspended animation >
1924: The Antrim Militia, Royal Artillery >
1953: disbanded

Thus I guess (other may have more knowledge) the RA badge with M from 1902 - 1908.
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Old 04-10-20, 09:14 AM
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Thanks for your response, Henk. Yes, I was referring to the 1854-1919 Antrim Artillery Miitia/ RGA. Sorry, I had read an article about the Antrim Artillery were there was discussion of volunteers, but it was in fact in reference to overseas service (which was voluntary, rather than a volunteer corps).

I was rather hoping it would be the standard Royal Artillery cap badge, as it's much easier to acquire ha
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Kyle, nice items, I have a shoulder title to the Cork Militia RGA, see this thread as a small size RGA shoulder title was worn in conjunction, I assume the same for Antrim.
I'm still on the hunt for the RGA part!
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https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=75134
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Old 04-10-20, 11:41 AM
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Many thanks, Tony. Yes, I believe all of the Irish RGA militia wore those small 'RGA' titles. Unfortunately I don't have any. They seem to be harder to come by than the militaria titles themselves ha. I see you originally intended to sell the Cork title - if you ever decided to part with it, please bear me in mind.
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Kyle,

Norman Litchfield's book "THE MILITIA ARTILLERY 1852-1909 (THEIR LINEAGE, UNIFORMS AND BADGES) Litchfield, Norman E.H. Published by The Sherwood Press (Nottingham) Ltd., Derby (1987) covers this well if you can get a copy.

Focusing on other ranks, after 1900,

In full dress the helmet plate was the standard Royal Artillery plate to which the letter 'M" was added in white metal (I think).

The badge for wear on the Brodrick and the peaked forage cap was the familiar gun badge of the Royal Artillery with the addition of the letter 'M" beneath the gun and above the lower scroll. For other ranks the badge in GM and the letter "M" in white metal. As mentioned the Antrim were not a Volunteer unit. Originally militia, they became special reserve in 1908 when the militia ceased to exist on April 1st when the Territorial and Reserve Forces act 1907 came into being.

Other ranks collar badges were the universal grenade 1882-1908.

I am sure others will correct any errors I have made.

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Thanks for confirmation on the cap badge, John. Now to try and find one to add to the collection. I will also look out for that book - thanks for the recommendation!
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Also the Stalybright Collars, these where the Red Hand enclosed in Laurel, as it was a T.A. unit to the end?
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Also the Stalybright Collars, these where the Red Hand enclosed in Laurel, as it was a T.A. unit to the end?
Litchfield:
There was raised as the first TA unit in Northern Ireland in 1937:, 188th (Antrim) Battery, Royal Artillery (TA) >
Battery expanded to regimental status 1940: The Antrim Heavy Regiment, Royal Artillery (TA) >
Subsequently 1940: 525 (Antrim) Coast Regiment, Royal Artillery >
1945: suspended animation >
reconstituted 1947: 429 Coast Regiment, Royal Artillery (Antrim) (TA)
converted in 1956: 146th (Antrim Artillery) Field Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers (TA)

Now the Militia unit mentioned above seemed lastly to have existed 1924-1953. When all of that is true, these must have been two units and not the same.

Bit confusing

See Artillery Militia: Antrim
and Artillery Volunteers: Antrim
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Also the Stalybright Collars, these where the Red Hand enclosed in Laurel, as it was a T.A. unit to the end?
Sorry, forgot to mention what Litchfleld says about the collar badge of 429th Coast Regiment:
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c1953 special collar badges were adopted which consisted of the Hand of Ulster within a strap inscribed ANTRIM ARTILLERY surmounted by a Queen's crown (fig.395). They were worn in gold anodised by Other Ranks and in gilt by officers. They continued to be worn after conversion to R.E.
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Sorry, forgot to mention what Litchfleld says about the collar badge of 429th Coast Regiment:
The one I have, unfortunately without its lug, and "RA" and "RE" shoulder titles
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Now the Militia unit mentioned above seemed lastly to have existed 1924-1953. When all of that is true, these must have been two units and not the same.

Bit confusing
Reading Antrim Artillery I am now convinced that there where two units that were colloquial called "Antrim Artillery".
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