Artillery............the Gun badge

[hagwalther]

Originally Posted by 54Bty

First pattern, lots of detail.
Second pattern, loss of most of the detail.
Royal Artillery Association. Officers version used to be produced in aa.

Thanks 54Bty,

I'll check mine later - does the lack of detail include non-seeding on the scroll of the later badge? From the photos it looks like it does.

Regards

Chris

[hagwalther]

Originally Posted by hagwalther

Thanks 54Bty,

I'll check mine later - does the lack of detail include non-seeding on the scroll of the later badge? From the photos it looks like it does.

Regards

Chris

Also, what is this raised or separate wheel all about. LoC only denotes two types of badges being Large and Small.

Regards

Chris

[signalman]

Steve can i have your thoughts on this one.Regards Phil.

[tynesideirish]

Originally Posted by hagwalther

Also, what is this raised or separate wheel all about. LoC only denotes two types of badges being Large and Small.

Regards

Chris

Chris,
It gives a 'moving wheel' to the badge. Don't know why we needed one but there you go.

[norfolk regt man]

There is also one that has had the top scroll replaced by scroll with the letters C.N.A.
The C.N.A. scroll was made in Norwich by crosskills

I have never seen one fitted, but did see the scrolls in a box in about 1980.

Cadet Norfolk Artillery.

[manchesters]

Originally Posted by signalman

Steve can i have your thoughts on this one.Regards Phil.

Phil,

This is a fake.
All RA fakes can easily identified by the extral long bit on top of the crown.

regards

[manchesters]

Here are some prize & appointment badges I used to have.

[mojob123]

Hope it's best to post this here as thread has been recently revived.

Earlier in thread (ok, about 7 years ago) there was mention of a Queen's Crown Officer's Gilt Beret Badge with slider and lugs of which, I hope, I've managed to get a genuine example. Front and back pics of badge with close up of maker's mark, which I can't see an example of in the J.R.Gaunt MM section.

Also, for my own interest, a KC die struck brass example. The lugs have been neatly snipped off. Is this a genuine OR's example of slider & lugs beret badge and, if so, is that a genuine 'J.R.Gaunt with a dot' MM? Mark is a fraction over 12mm long, not the 11mm quoted in the MM section. It would be nice to know as it would be the only one in my modest collection and good to use as a template.

Thanks, Mike.

[tonyb]

Hello Mike, two great badges in my opinion.
Thanks for showing.
Tony.

[LONGSHANKS]

Originally Posted by Faugh-A-Ballagh

I picked this one up at Bangor on Saturday. I hadn't seen one before with the wire reinforcement behind the crown. I see it also has the folded back slider, and doesn't have the moving wheel. I suspect it may be an economy issue item, but am prepared to be guided on the subject if I am wrong. It has been well polished over the years and is slightly worn down. I thought it was too nice to miss.

John

Hi John, not sure if your question was asked, but I have a couple of these.

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=92931

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=79894

If I remember rightly, one of them also had a hairpin slider as you mentioned. And as you can see, issues in 1917 with void's as opposed to the voidless econ's of 1916-19. Always wondered why they had this pattern when econ's with in manufacture to save time etc. It must have been time consuming to add the wire. Defeated the reason for the econ initiative really.

Maybe an artillery buff can answer that one.

Regards
Simon.

[41st]

Please will one of our artillery collectors tell me what this territorial officers' gilt cap badge would have been worn on. The reverse looks to have had three very thin blades which is why I ask as it would be difficult to push through a dress cap.
Thanks in anticipation.
Hwyl,
Kevin

[manchesters]

Kevin,

I believe it was the Forage Cap (Peaked Cap).

regards

[41st]

Simon,

I guessed it would have to be, but I have never come across blade fittings that would have been as narrow and fragile as these evidently were. There is no way one could have pushed through the material of a FC without first forming guide holes. Perhaps that was the intention of course.

Hwyl,

Kevin

[manchesters]

Hwyl,

Yes I thought the same, guide holes first.

regards

[sniperbait]

When one looks to see how many variants of the post 1902 Artillery badge I have 345 variants from 22 Commonwealth countries and colonies. Each one is different in some small way. The British and the Canadians seem to have the most variants due to the regions and territorial units. The New Zealand Artillery have a large number of variants to but mostly pre WW1. The South Africa artillery has a lot of university badges. I am still looking for some of the rarer badges but every now and then some one has a deeper pocket than mine. (Can't sneek the prices passed the wife). The most expensive I have seen went for $1600, a Prince Edward Island Canadian badge.