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Finally gathered up
I’ve been finding these badges all over the house and I’m sure there will be more as the draws are looked into ?. Collection so far….
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The first two dated poppy pins look interesting , what are the dates ?
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Hi Mike
They are 2009 and 2011, all these have been purchased by me from poppy sellers locally, so I asssume they are all original? Regards Ian
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In 2011 the leaf on the poppy pin was moved to the left hand side and was only officially produced with the leaf in the 'high' position. Branches in N.I produce a lot of "unofficial" pins/badges which are quite often based on official designs. I have quite a few in my collection as they are great and very well made but should not be confused with the offical ones. Note : In 2012 and 2013 the RBL produced/sold two versions of pins , the 'low leaf' ones were sent to branches for the Poppy Appeal and the 'high leaf' were sold (on a card) directly from Poppy Shop. .
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Amazing, i took another look the quality of both badges is very similar. Thanks for your comments
Regards Ian
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Also are the back of the badges same ? .
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Hi Mike
The 2009 is slightly smaller and I have hopefully attached pictures of 2009, 2011 and the 2017 one. I also know where my 2008 one went, it was buried with a colleague John, who died on the 11th of the 11th. The others may well turn up tucked away in draws! Regards Ian
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OK , the photos show a couple of things .....sorry !
The 2009 appears to be genuine , correct size and back. The 2011 has the leaf in the wrong place , is not the correct size (all early dated pins 2006-2013 are the same size) and has criss cross back . Each of these individually are signs of a copy/fake , yours has all three ! The 2017 is not correct , the RBL only produced double dated (1917/2017) pins , it also has criss cross back which is found on copies/fakes. Note : from 1914/2014 to 1918/2018 the official RBL pins were double dated , any single dated pins 2014-2018 are not official RBL. In 2016 two badges were produced and sold , one (due to production error) was a different shade of red. .
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So even though a badge is bought from the RBL, it might not be genuine?
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Although a lot of these pins/badges are not officially authorised by the RBL the problem I have is when copyright/trademark pins (such as dated poppy pins) are produced. Variations which were never official RBL pins have crept into the mainstream and are being advertised/sold as "rare". Edit : I know of a couple of Branches in England who wanted to produce badges , either Branch specific or for an Anniversary , and were refused permission from the RBL to use any of the trademark/copyright symbols/logos. .
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Below is an example of a poppy pin produced and sold by a N.I. badge company.
Although there is no indication of the size and no photo of the rear (plain or criss cross) , it is definitely a copy/fake as the leaf is on the wrong side . The RBL moved the leaf to 11 o'clock position in 2011. These pins end up in Branches , usually "a bag found in a drawer or cupboard" , and are assumed to be genuine as they are then sold by RBL branches. Note : This is not only a N.I. issue , an RAF veteran and "Civic Leader" in England who is heavily involved in Remembrance services/Commemorations was selling 100% fake 2006 pins. He was informed they were fakes but continued to sell them on eBay under 3 different (family/friend) accounts. .
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