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Old 31-12-12, 11:11 AM
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Just acquired the anodised badge in the photos. Although the officers version of the badge is silver, gilt and enamel, I have never seen the othre ranks anodised version with red petals to the rose before.

The red paint is neatly applied although it does overrun slightly in a couple of places. Is this somebodies attempt to make the badge more attractive officially or unofficially ?

Has anyone else ever seen a similar example ?

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Possibly worn unofficially by soldiers in the Loyal Regiment when badged to the Lancastrian Brigade. The Loyal Regiment cap badge in anodised aluminium (K&K2007) is sometimes found with the rose painted red.

Or similarly by soldiers in the Queen's Lancashire Regiment with the rose painted red prior to the issue of K&K2049 and to match the QLR collar badges with roses "painted red regimentally".

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Just acquired the anodised badge in the photos. Although the officers version of the badge is silver, gilt and enamel, I have never seen the othre ranks anodised version with red petals to the rose before.

The red paint is neatly applied although it does overrun slightly in a couple of places. Is this somebodies attempt to make the badge more attractive officially or unofficially ?

Has anyone else ever seen a similar example ?

P.B.
HI P.B.

Here is the original designation note from Change C 9374 re: Lancastrian Brigade. It is taken from the List of Changes dated 31st August 1959 found in Volume LXIX:

INTRODUCTION. A pattern (No. 17849) has been sealed to govern future manufacture and is hereby introduced. The design, in anodised aluminium, is a rose in wreath, with the word ‘LANCASTRIAN’ in a scroll beneath (‘gold’), and bearing the St. Edward’s Crown and lion surmounted (‘silver’). The badge is fitted with a vertical shank fastening.

Various sealed pattern cards also specify:

BADGES ORGANIZATION [ORGANIZATION in red] CAP
LANCASTRIAN BRIGADE O/R’s
(GOLD + SILVER) AA
(GOLD, SILVER; CAP)


No mention is made of a red rose.

Interestingly the Lancashire Volunteers were approved their own cap badge which got as far as the approval of the coloured sketch. The badge to be in A/A. This decision was held in obeyance though until after the 1974 TAVR review and the badge was never created.

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Thanks Tim and Chris.

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Possibly worn unofficially by soldiers in the Loyal Regiment when badged to the Lancastrian Brigade. The Loyal Regiment cap badge in anodised aluminium (K&K2007) is sometimes found with the rose painted red.

Or similarly by soldiers in the Queen's Lancashire Regiment with the rose painted red prior to the issue of K&K2049 and to match the QLR collar badges with roses "painted red regimentally".

Tim
I have the red rose version of the Loyals, and both examples of the QLR.

Similarly the Yorkshire brigade/volunteers officers badge has a white enamel rose but the OR`s a/a is always silver coloured.Except for that strange example with the gold and black.Which i think if the black was taken off the underneath would be gold,thus giving an all gold Yorks vols/bgde.
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I think it unlikely that the regular battalion of the Loyals would permit such frippery, it was in all probability the work of one of the TA battalions who also garnished the Loyals a/a badges in such a fashion.
Don't forget this was a period when many old senior soldiers were reluctant to see the end of 'Bull'.
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