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Glasgow Highlanders-Black Watch
I bought this badge with a lot of others that all had loops and sliders missing, I repaired it and it now resides between the 9th HLI and the Black Watch.
Does anyone else have a badge like this? Awaiting members thoughts on this badge. Rob |
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Rob, looks like the TF badge to me and if genuine worth about £100!
Andy |
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Why so Andy? The lack of plinth.
Simon. |
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No mate, if you look it has a plinth! It's the long, crossed thistle leaves above the BW scrolls!
Andy |
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Hi All,
A very interesting badge. My understanding is that the Glasgow Highlanders were of the Highland Light Infantry. Where does the Black Watch come into it, apart from the similar badge design? Cheers, Tinto |
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Thanks Andy, that would have been another on the watch list.... but I think the plot has thickened since then......
Simon. |
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TF HLI
Andy, I must apologise for the picture, I am not the best photographer in the world and I am new to this digital camera.
The top scrolls read "Glasgow Highlanders" and the lower scrolls read "Black Watch", here hangs the query, this badge is not shown or mentioned as far as I am aware in any of the books and is totally wrong, however when I got it years ago a certain very well known collector was very interested in it, he obviously knew more than I did about this badge which is why I am offering it up for an answer as to why it was made like this. Rob |
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This badge was not worn by the Black Watch or the Glasgow Highlanders. The consensus from both regiments is that someone got hold of an old die and re-cut it - 'just to confuse collectors'.
Some clearly have been struck too heavily and have pierced the badges around the scrolls - these look hellish. Others which are only slightly better looking are scarce but worth having in your collection as curios only. TM |
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The '2nd bn blunt die' die has no similarities with any other so its not a case of re-cutting an old die to create the wide star arms, but a totally new die with a different design of sphinx, scrolls, arms the whole lot.
So I presume that forty twa means the GH badge with the altered Black Watch title? It's mentioned in Gaylor's book of which the 1st edition which was published in 1971. If that's the case then it's a very early fake. Does anyone have the 1st edn to hand? Last edited by Alan O; 24-02-16 at 06:47 PM. Reason: clarification |
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Attached is what Gaylor said.
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I have had two of these badges in the past 30 years, both quite well made and old-looking. I always regarded them as a manufacturer's mistake and never thought of them as a deliberate falsification. All I know is that they are neither BW or HLI!
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If as Peter's article above shows, they were about in 1968 then that would suggest a makers' error and never worn.
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