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Old 28-10-16, 03:40 PM
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Hi Rob,
Here is a list of what I can find among my General Service KC buttons.
Cheers, Tinto

Crossed Swords Make MADE IN ENGLAND
BURY COURT MFG.
SYDNEY GRIFFITH BIRMINGHAM
NEWEY BROS. LIMITED BIRMINGHAM
W. DEARN & CO. BIRMINGHAM
C.H.C. & S. LTD. BIRMINGHAM
C. H. PARSONS LTD. BIRMINGHAM
STRATTON B’HAM
SMITH & WRIGHT LIMITED BIRMINGHAM
ESSOR B’HAM
ADAMS B’HAM
THE DEVERLEA PRODUCTS LTD. B’HAM
BUTTONS LIMITED BIRMINGHAM
CHENEY B’HAM
HEATON & TAYLOR LTD. BIRMINGHAM
RECAL BUTTON WORKS LTD. B’HAM
W. TWIGG & CO. BIRMINGHAM
KENWORTHYS LTD. BIRMINGHAM
LION BIRMINGHAM
HARCOURTS? LTD. BIRMINGHAM
MORTON & CROWDER LTD. BIRMINGHAM
E. ARMFIELD LTD. BIRMINGHAM
WM. DOWLER & SONS LTD. BIRMM.
? BIRMINGHAM
FIRMIN & SONS LTD. LONDON
WRIGHT & SON EDGEWARE MIDDX.
J R GAUNT & SON LTD. LONDON
GAUNT LONDON
G. J. WEBB & CO. LTD. LONDON
CHATURBIHARI & BROS. ALIGARHUP
J. C. PARIKH & CO. DELHI
The "W. DEARN & CO. BIRMINGHAM" shown above I suspect is actually DEAKIN, can anyone confirm please?

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Old 28-10-16, 04:46 PM
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Hello Rob

Deakin & Co it is.

Confirmation on this site - illustration of a dug-up general service button made by Deakin - http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/fo...n-w-deakin-co/

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Old 04-05-17, 02:15 PM
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4 New Large KC GS with a very faint MM, they could be W.B.P LTD BIRMINGHAM like this small one?

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Old 04-05-17, 03:21 PM
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Hello Rob

I think you could well be right "W B & P Ltd Birmingham". I have noted this backmark on buttons before, as well as "B & P Ltd Birmingham" which I think is an earlier mark for the same company.

I have a note that "W B & P Ltd Birmingham" were taken over by Gaunt in 1916. If this is correct (can anyone confirm?) then it would nicely date your buttons.

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Old 04-05-17, 05:06 PM
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Thanks for the reply Roger, I wonder it that explains the badly stamped maker mark, in 1916 there was a huge demand for GS buttons so presumably Gaunt could have made these with someone else's dies and machinery and not marked the reverse fully?

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I think you could well be right "W B & P Ltd Birmingham". I have noted this backmark on buttons before, as well as "B & P Ltd Birmingham" which I think is an earlier mark for the same company.

I have a note that "W B & P Ltd Birmingham" were taken over by Gaunt in 1916. If this is correct (can anyone confirm?) then it would nicely date your buttons.

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B & P is Bent & Parker.
It was previously known as J.J. Bent & Co. (from the oldcopper site)
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B & P is Bent & Parker.
It was previously known as J.J. Bent & Co. (from the oldcopper site)
I believe Bent & Parker were established as a company in 1863 and I have had a few buttons with full "Bent & Parker" backmarks, either "46 Newhall St Birmingham" or "87 Newhall St Birmingham".

They became a limited company in 1900, so perhaps that is when they stopped using the full name and started to use just "B & P Ltd ....." as a backmark.

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Old 05-08-17, 09:40 AM
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I bought this piece of uniform for the WM buttons, you don't often see KC GS buttons without the lion atop the crown, I already had two smaller examples but not the large 24mm version.

But now I'm wondering what uniform this was cut from, and which part, did the volunteers wear scarlet? or could this be from a Militia Battalion?

All thoughts and observations welcome.

Rob
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Hi Rob.

Glad you like them (you bought them from my eBay account).

I could not find anything about then either, so would be good to find out more about them.

All the best.

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Old 05-08-17, 08:44 PM
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Hi Mike

I'm chuffed with them, Thank you very much, and looking forward to receiving the other set too.

Rob
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You're welcome.

Did you realise there are three sets available? or are you letting someone else have the other three? lol.

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Old 06-08-17, 05:26 AM
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I hadn't noticed the third set, but they look similar to the second, do they have the same makers marks on the reverse?

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Old 06-08-17, 06:16 PM
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Hi Rob.

I have just looked and there is no maker's marks to the buttons; they are blank on the reverse.

If you would like them we could deal on here (to save me a few quid on eBay fees!). Cheers.

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The attached pictures of a Liverpool Scottish other ranks tunic are a clue to where the buttons came from.

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Old 07-08-17, 06:35 AM
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Well done Peter, would the Liverpool Scottish be the only ones to wear this particular uniform?

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