Today's find!

[mule-73k]

Hi Guys,

Picked this up today. It was listed as a American Ordance collor. I do'nt believe that it is and have my own ideas on it!

What do you guys think? Value your input.

Dave

[mule-73k]

Sorry clicked the wrong button to soon, attached are the rest of the pics.


Dave

[jubilationtcornpone]

Dave,

Not American. Wrong flaming grenade for starters and American insignia doesn't use lugs. I'll let the British experts say exactly what this is.

Don

[mule-73k]

Thanks Don,

My thoughts exactly.

Dave

[LONGSHANKS]

Looks similar to the Royal Marine Artillery cap or collar, can't be sure or Royal Artillery collar.

Simon.

[CftD]

From the squat shape of the grenade I suspect you have a Royal Marine Artillery cap badge - pre 1922. David

[orasot]

Hi, assuming it's white metal & not my dodgy eyes you have a Royal Artillery Volunteers pre 1902 general pattern forage cap badge, nice one too !! fig 839 in K&K.
Wilf.

[LONGSHANKS]

RMA was my first shot, I'm getting better at this and I don't even have K&K......

Simon.

[mule-73k]

Thanks Guys,

I'm in the states at the moment and hitting some Antique Malls and this was with a load of american army insignia. Have to visit some more!!!!

Dave

[LONGSHANKS]

Where in the states Dave

[CftD]

So - is the badge brass or white metal ? It would help to identify - and eliminate - previous opinions. David

[mule-73k]

Sorry, David, it's white metal. Lovely white metal..................

Simon, I'm in a very hot Texas. Thank God for air conditioning.

[Silver Tourist]

Good evening.
Whilst the two Volumes by Kipling & King are indeed illuminating, the most comprehensive and accurate publications on the badges of the Artillery are the three volumes written by the late Norman Litchfield.

The Volume on the Volunteer Artillery co-authored by Ray Westlake and published in 1982 identifies this item as one of at least three versions of white metal general grenade pattern collar badges some 1.5 inches high in use from 1859-1908. This item most closely resembles Fig. 31 on Pg.17 of said publication.

Given the depth of the late Mr Litchfield`s knowledge I would suspect an attribution as an other ranks` collar to the Volunteer Artillery (ie. the whole of the Volunteer Artillery) is correct.

Any collector interested in the Artillery and its badges should own all three Volumes as well as his various publications on Artillery shoulder titles and his beloved Artillery Pagri badges.

Enjoy.

S.

[Traist]

This badge was also used by some of the Colonial Volunteer units, like the Natal Field Artillery of South Africa. Regards Andrew

[LONGSHANKS]

Hi David, glad you posted it as I'm glad my badge knowledge is always improving from being a member of the forum. I thought I recognized the flames from Peter Doyle's book on British WW1 badges.

You on vacation in TX or business, and yes thank god for air conditioning. Same here today in NY, in the 90's with high humidity. Nothing like back home.

Have a good rest of your trip.

Regards

Simon.