Herts help!

[Sonofacqms]

I have four Hertfordshire badges, 1,2, and 3 are collar badges and 4 is a cap badge, could anyone help me please as to what they are and when they were worn.

Thanks Rob

[oc14]

I believe the cap badge is that worn by Berkhamstead School OTC

PL

[Sonofacqms]

Many thanks for the reply, off to the OTC board with it . . !

Rob

[Sonofacqms]

Anyone know when or where the RH collar (3) with the "HERTFORDSHIRE" scroll was worn?

(1) is probably a Berkhamstead School OTC RH collar badge.

(2) is I think a Herts Rifle Volunteers collar badge which was also worn as a F/S cap badge.

Rob

[leigh kitchen]

It appears as "unidentified" in "Churchill" as figure 530 in silver and gilt and is mentioned as also recorded in bronze.

[Sonofacqms]

Thanks Leigh, Churchill does have it as unidentified, but the book was written nearly twenty years ago and I did wonder whether any other information has turned up since.

As my badge is the same as the one illustrated I have wondered whether it was a trial pattern, possibly as a beret badge.

Rob

[leigh kitchen]

I think it's unlikey to be a beret badge as it's facing the "wrong" way, and in OSD finish?
Doesn't Churchill show it as an image only in silver and gilt and facing the viewer's left?

[Nozzer]

I was intrigued when this thread was suggested to me, but I am unable to help with what you have Rob.

However, you may find the two threads that I have linked below of interest;

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...t=herts+collar

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...=hertfordshire

When the answer is found, could someone let me know perhaps?

Andrew

[leigh kitchen]

At the moment it looks like these were produced as pairs of collar badges and at least one converted for wear as an OSD cap badge?
Presumably lugs would've been suitable for wear on a beret but longer fittings such as tangs would be necessary for use on an OSD cap.

[Sonofacqms]

Thanks to all who have replied, my theory on a beret badge is no doubt way out, but never mind, never say never with military badges.

Rob

[matti467]

So true, never say never, all sorts of adaptions etc have happened in the badge world

[leigh kitchen]

Years ago I read (possibly in a Crown Imperial) of a Royal Norfolk Regiment officer who as a prisoner of the Japanese wore a cap badge facing the wrong way - Britannia, carefully cut from a penny.

[Hoot]

I am of the opinion, as I was in the thread referred to in post 8, that the badge with the Hertfordshire scroll was worn by the Hertfordshire Battalion, Bedfordshire Regiment, TF, 1908 to 1909/1910. The cap badge being the same as the left collar badge.