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Old 03-06-12, 03:11 PM
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can you identify this artillery sword ?
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Old 03-06-12, 04:45 PM
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Looks French, 1870's to me.

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Old 03-06-12, 08:25 PM
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Could be Belgian Artillery. Looks a bit like the cap badge.
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Could be Belgian Artillery. Looks a bit like the cap badge.
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Old 05-06-12, 05:44 AM
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Old 05-06-12, 08:53 AM
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Here's mine.

I'm not convinced, though it is very similar. I think that GregN was probably nearer the mark with French.

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Old 05-06-12, 04:44 PM
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Have you cheched for any markings on the blade or other parts? They may help to narrow it down some more.
An interesting point and as shown by BP, both the French and the Belgians included the grenade on their artillery devices. The French as far as 1830 for the Royal Horse Artlilery (Garde Royal - Artillerie a Cheval). The pattarn crown shown is identical to many other European of the time and even looks, Spanish, Danish, Greek and possibly Portuguese. Definitely a nice item but which requires more research.
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Old 05-06-12, 10:12 PM
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Guelphic Crown? Kingdom of Hanover/Germany?

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Old 07-06-12, 05:02 AM
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Hello Gentlemen
thank you
no stamp, no mark
note that the crown doesn't have "fleurs de Lys"
another picture
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Old 07-06-12, 06:55 AM
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Another possibility is Empire of Brazil, 1822–1889.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Co..._of_Brazil.svg
The crown wasn't exactly Guelphic and didn't have "Fleurs de Lys". The army was obviously much styled on the French military, especially the heraldic devices.
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Old 10-06-12, 10:12 AM
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Old 10-06-12, 12:19 PM
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Didier,
I recommend viewing this page because of the crown.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_(heraldry) If the page doesn't open showing the crowns, then click on where it says 'Did you mean Crown (herldry)'.
If you note the crown on your sword, it has pearls set between the leaves or crosses. Many of the former European monarchies had similar crowns, all with a closed top. I know that it adds to the confusion but also helps not to make a rush decision on the sword's possible origin.
Another factor common with badges and similar devices is that some crowns were so identical that the makers used the same pattern dies for more than one country.
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Hello button
thanks a lot for the link
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