Royal flying corps cap badge original? - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

Martyn123 · #1 07-10-23, 05:10 PM

Hi

I found this today for a couple of quid so suspect this to be fake?

Can anybody suggest if this is a good original or junk please?

Thank you
Martyn

Martyn123 · #2 07-10-23, 06:40 PM

Better pics that may help. Ant ideas about the authenticity of this one please? Thank you

Alex Rice · #3 09-10-23, 06:45 AM

I don't like commenting on these because I am not sure but here goes. As far as I remember, there was a thread saying that if the F overlaps the bottom of the crown where the oval opening is, it is not a good sign. It looks like yours has that defect but the photos aren't close up enough to see properly.
Cheers,
Alex

Martyn123 · #4 09-10-23, 09:50 AM

Thank you I don't think that this one does. Are you thinking of the oblong flaw above the F this hasn't got that.

All the best
Martyn

Home Guard · #5 09-10-23, 05:53 PM

I think the referenced concern is what I have circled in white. What strikes me is that he crown seems to take a noticeable dip at that point.

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Just my thoughts.

Terry

Martyn123 · #6 09-10-23, 07:00 PM

Thank you Terry. So that indicates a fake? Do you know what evidence the is for this? May it not be as variant? There must have been a fair number of makers using different dies?

All the best

Martyn123 · #7 09-10-23, 07:31 PM

A few better pics I hope.

Thank you

Home Guard · #8 09-10-23, 09:16 PM

Martyn,

I can't say for sure that it's a fake as I stopped collecting RFC and WW1 aviation over 30 years ago. I can only say I had no badges like that, nor is it one I would want. If there should turn up some kind of pictorial confirmation that such a badge existed and was worn, I would of course, change my mind.

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My previous post was to point out what jumped out at me immediately as I saw the badge and what would be an issue in my mind.

Terry

Martyn123 · #9 10-10-23, 06:00 AM

Thank you Terry. You have some nice stuff. Thanks for your help with the badge. I have since shown the badge to a very experienced collector friend of mine who has said that there is nothing wrong with this badge and that it is fine.

All the best
Martyn

Alex Rice · #10 10-10-23, 07:04 AM

That's good news, and the reason I don't like commenting on these. I was not remarking on the kink in the edge of the crown more where the F meets the crown. One some fakes it blurs into the bottom of the crown and your photo is small and difficult to see the exact details.
Here is a link to a post where it is really blatant so probably an old die:
https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ighlight=badge

I've added a couple of snip images of good ones showing the distinct line where the F meets the crown.
Cheers,
Alex

Martyn123 · #11 10-10-23, 08:18 AM

Many thanks Alex

All the best

Martyn