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19-09-15, 08:27 PM
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WW1 Medal set without the Victory Medal
Hello all
I recently acquired a 1914-15 Star, a British War Medal and a Class A War services Badge. The Medals are both named for the same soldier and through checking the records I was able to confirm the War Services Badge are his. I have a question regarding the lack of a Victory Medal. It has been my understanding that if one received the 1914-15 star they were also to receive the Victory medal. The soldier in question discharged from the CEF in 1918, died in 1924 and his widow was sent a dispatch along with his medals in 1929. By reading the documents in the attachments did he only ever recieve the 1914-15 star and BWM? If so then I can stop looking for his Victory medal. I suppose the question revolves around if "P and S" refers to "Pip and Squeak" Thanks for all the help 
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19-09-15, 08:47 PM
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The answer is a definate NO.
Everyone with a Victory medal also got the BWM. The BWM is the only one of the 3 to be awarded as a single entitlement. The badge you refer to is the Silver War Badge. (SWB). regards
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges
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#3
19-09-15, 08:57 PM
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If he served overseas as part of the CEF, then he is entitled to the Victory Medal.
"Pip and Squeak" is an unoffical reference to a popular cartoon of the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pip,_Squeak_and_Wilfred Andy Last edited by Nozzer; 19-09-15 at 09:06 PM.
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19-09-15, 09:10 PM
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regards
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges
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19-09-15, 10:14 PM
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No I don't have my answer. I do understand different criteria has been used by different parts of the empire.
I never referred to a SBW. Canadians were not awarded them. They received a Class A War services Pin. As I mentioned. My question centered around the "P and S" notation on his file as well as on the medals dispatch to his widow. I know the common reference, and where it came form. It would be interesting if such reference made in to official records.
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19-09-15, 09:10 PM
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WW1 Medal set without the Victory Medal
Hello all
I recently acquired a 1914-15 Star, a British War Medal and a Class A War services Badge. The Medals are both named for the same soldier and through checking the records I was able to confirm the War Services Badge are his. I have a question regarding the lack of a Victory Medal. It has been my understanding that if one received the 1914-15 star they were also to receive the Victory medal. The soldier in question discharged from the CEF in 1918, died in 1924 and his widow was sent a dispatch along with his medals in 1929. By reading the documents in the attachments did he only ever recieve the 1914-15 star and BWM? If so then I can stop looking for his Victory medal. I suppose the question revolves around if "P and S" refers to "Pip and Squeak" Thanks for all the help
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19-09-15, 09:16 PM
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19-09-15, 10:58 PM
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Set? The convention is to refer to a "group" of medals.
Phil
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Courtesy of The Canadian Forces: https://www.canada.ca/en/department-.../lineages.html Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur Hanlon's razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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#11
20-09-15, 08:20 AM
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You can easily (but for a cost) obtain his service records. Start here: http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discove...es/search.aspx
But the short answer is that if he was entitled to a Star he was entitled to a Victory Medal. And P&S certainly does not refer to Pip & Squeak!! I've no idea what it does refer to but no that ... Eddie
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