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Old 02-11-17, 09:02 PM
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A while ago I was asked if I would do a thread on the appointment marks found on headdress I did say yes to the request as it would be very informative and a useful guide for forum members but never got round to it having had the same request again from a few of you good folks I decided I would do it well do what i said i would do the 1st time round so here we are .
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A large majority of private purchase headdress do not have dates on them so therefor it can be difficult to date these to a certain periods of time. We tend to turn to the makers marks to help us with this issue finding out where a company was based or who took it over during its operating periods can give a very good time span for when the items where produced IE J & Co ( Jennings and company ) we can date to the pre J R Gaunt take over period in 1922 the same techniques can be applied to headdress in particular the by appointment marks found in some help to date items to certain time frames. Taking the styles of the cap's , side hats etc into account can and do aid the collector to date items to within a few years of its production period . Understanding these markings and styles that happened over the years gives a good time frame for the individual items in our collections which is often the most asked question when I get shown items at the fairs when was this made Steve ?
The answers are out there its a mater of doing the detective work to get them ! so this is a start in the right direction . steve
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Albert Edward (son of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert)
Created Prince of Wales on 8th December 1841, aged four weeks, in London
Acceded as King Edward VII on 22nd January 1901


George (son of King Edward VII and Queen Alexandra)
Created Prince of Wales on 9th November 1901, aged 36, in London
Acceded as King George V on 6th May 1910


Edward (son of King George V and Queen Mary)
Created Prince of Wales on 23rd June 1910, aged 16. Invested on 13th July 1911, at Caernarfon Castle
Acceded as King Edward VIII on 20th January 1936
NONE TILL CHARLES
Charles (son of Queen Elizabeth II and The Duke of Edinburgh)
Created Prince of Wales on 26th July 1958, aged nine; invested on 1st July 1969, at Caernarf
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Old 02-11-17, 10:34 PM
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THIS IS GOING TO TAKE A WHILE SO PLEASE DONT ADD TO THIS THREAD
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This is certainly taking a while, Steve, no doubt about that. Is there any more coming?

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Hi steve,

Just a nudge to get this one going mate

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...4&postcount=12

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Whilst we are waiting for Steve here is something I put together from my collection (apart from the single image found on the net), reasonably accurate I think for Herbert Johnson.
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Hi Guys
OK I will do it for you i start the post again and get some of you on board to help with pics etc
I had been thinking of changing the title etc and do a thread more like the beret thread but on caps with the 1st section on appointment markings then going into shape changes peaks etc and calling it cap dating any thoughts would be welcome ? steve
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Sounds an excellent idea to me - mail you any photos for you to post where appropriate rather than just post them up anywhere on thread?
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Sounds an excellent idea to me - mail you any photos for you to post where appropriate rather than just post them up anywhere on thread?
YEP sound good to me !!
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Nudge........
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Hi Steve,

Nearly five years since you last posted on this? Any chance you could update it please? Of course, I understand that life can get in the way of these things, But as I have a room full of early caps (mostly Royal Navy), I would appreciate any help with dating them.

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