British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

Recent Books by Forum Members

   

Go Back   British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum > British Military Insignia > Anodised Aluminium Badges

 Other Pages: Galleries, Links etc.
Glossary  Books by Forum Members     Canadian Pre 1914    CEF    CEF Badge Inscriptions   Canadian post 1920     Canadian post 1953     British Cavalry Badges     Makers' Marks    Pipers' Badges  Canadian Cloth Titles  Books  SEARCH
 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 20-07-17, 10:36 AM
Frank Kelley's Avatar
Frank Kelley Frank Kelley is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 7,562
Default

Very nice indeed, Jerry.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JBBOND View Post
Parachute regiment
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 20-07-17, 11:24 AM
GriffMJ's Avatar
GriffMJ GriffMJ is offline
LYPAO Boff
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Caerlŷr, yn Lloegr.
Posts: 6,445
Default

From Andy's Welsh Guards album... there should be a couple more with different back images and maybe the MM going down the slider. Also the older smooth rounded end slider?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg SWTldWG.jpg (94.1 KB, 22 views)
__________________
Cofion gorau
Gruffydd M-J
www.paoyeomanry.org.uk

"A Yeoman from the Stalwart Rural Cavalry"
Lechyd da pob Cymro
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 20-07-17, 01:39 PM
bess55's Avatar
bess55 bess55 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1,814
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GriffMJ View Post
From Andy's Welsh Guards album... there should be a couple more with different back images and maybe the MM going down the slider. Also the older smooth rounded end slider?
The interesting point with the Smith and Wright example of the Welsh Guards AA cap badge is that the die is different to all the other makers (of which there are several). In the S&W badge the 2 smaller leaves at the top centre (4th & 5th) are stuck together and adjoined to the 3rd leaf in from the left. On all other examples the 2 smaller leaves are free and point out longer. If you compare this example to all others you'll see what I mean.

Have never seen the earlier softer S&W slider on the Welsh Guards AA cap badge, but you never know! The more scarce example has the metal slider riveted on - I believe a Gaunt example similar to that seen on the REME, RE and early Queens Regt? Happy to be corrected.

Regards all.

Bess
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 20-07-17, 04:58 PM
leigh kitchen's Avatar
leigh kitchen leigh kitchen is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 9,030
Default

Not having badges to hand - the Smith & Wright Welsh Guards longer, seperate central leaves badge, this is a variation on the "standard" Guardsmen & Drummer's badge, it's not the Sgts & Musician's version?
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 20-07-17, 09:45 PM
bess55's Avatar
bess55 bess55 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1,814
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by leigh kitchen View Post
Not having badges to hand - the Smith & Wright Welsh Guards longer, seperate central leaves badge, this is a variation on the "standard" Guardsmen & Drummer's badge, it's not the Sgts & Musician's version?
Personally I don't think so, no. If this badge were a variation it is way too subtle to be immediately or easily noticeable. If this were the case, would it not be found by other makers too, like the Scots Guards is? Its just a makers die variation I believe and they all have slight differences (most common is the root ball on the Leek which is different on most of the makers) - the S&W example just seems to be the most immediately visible.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 21-07-17, 06:56 PM
Frank Kelley's Avatar
Frank Kelley Frank Kelley is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 7,562
Default

That is very nice too, actually just seeing anything Welsh Guards with a makers mark is nice!

Quote:
Originally Posted by GriffMJ View Post
From Andy's Welsh Guards album... there should be a couple more with different back images and maybe the MM going down the slider. Also the older smooth rounded end slider?
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 21-07-17, 09:27 PM
JerryBB's Avatar
JerryBB JerryBB is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Wales
Posts: 5,018
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Kelley View Post
That is very nice too, actually just seeing anything Welsh Guards with a makers mark is nice!
I have a FIRMIN example
Attached Images
File Type: jpg welsh guards cap 8.jpg (39.5 KB, 19 views)
__________________
Regards,

Jerry
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 31-03-21, 01:21 PM
GriffMJ's Avatar
GriffMJ GriffMJ is offline
LYPAO Boff
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Caerlŷr, yn Lloegr.
Posts: 6,445
Default

Hi All

A new Smith & Wright Ltd, back image, motto for the collection. Making eight mottos with different backs.... to date.

* looks like it has some old varnish on the front. That's easily removed by leaving it in acetone.

__________________
Cofion gorau
Gruffydd M-J
www.paoyeomanry.org.uk

"A Yeoman from the Stalwart Rural Cavalry"
Lechyd da pob Cymro
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 31-03-21, 03:05 PM
Mike H's Avatar
Mike H Mike H is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,694
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GriffMJ View Post
Hi All

A new Smith & Wright Ltd, back image, motto for the collection. Making eight mottos with different backs.... to date.

* looks like it has some old varnish on the front. That's easily removed by leaving it in acetone.


Looks like the very old Smith & Wright with the soft slider
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 31-03-21, 05:09 PM
GriffMJ's Avatar
GriffMJ GriffMJ is offline
LYPAO Boff
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Caerlŷr, yn Lloegr.
Posts: 6,445
Default

.... it does Mike.



Here are the rest of the Smith&Wright LTD AAs https://www.paoyeomanry.org.uk/Motto...rightLtdAA.htm
__________________
Cofion gorau
Gruffydd M-J
www.paoyeomanry.org.uk

"A Yeoman from the Stalwart Rural Cavalry"
Lechyd da pob Cymro

Last edited by GriffMJ; 31-03-21 at 05:16 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 07-04-21, 03:23 PM
GriffMJ's Avatar
GriffMJ GriffMJ is offline
LYPAO Boff
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Caerlŷr, yn Lloegr.
Posts: 6,445
Default

CORRECTION to post #23 :-

Having received the Motto it is, in fact, a duplicate of an existing back image that I already have.

If anyone is interested in buying it .... PM me
__________________
Cofion gorau
Gruffydd M-J
www.paoyeomanry.org.uk

"A Yeoman from the Stalwart Rural Cavalry"
Lechyd da pob Cymro
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

mhs link

All times are GMT. The time now is 07:56 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.