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Old 19-10-21, 01:07 PM
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Default 302nd (Pembroke Yeomanry) Field Regiment Royal Artillery

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In Norman Litchfield's Territorial Artillery book, it states that the above Regiment wore the Pembroke Yeomanry cap badge from 1947, is this correct, and has anyone got any photos of the above Regiment wearing them please?
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Old 19-10-21, 05:58 PM
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I dont know about them wearing the cap badge from 1947. They became an independant recce sqn with an affliation to the Shropshire Yeo in 1961. The Shrops museum has some PY items in its collection. One of which is the large anodised cap which is a pretty scarce item.
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Old 19-10-21, 06:37 PM
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Thank you for your reply Mike.
Yes, I've seen the large anodised in another collection, rare indeed! Never seen one since.
There is not a lot, or no evidence that I can see of the PY badge being worn after the war when they became 302nd Regiment, I've seen then wearing RA cap badges, well, collars in the FS side cap, and wearing of PY collars is also evident, as they were approved during WW2, but nothing after,apart from what is said in Norman Litchfield's book.
I hope someone can shed some light on this.
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Old 19-10-21, 07:14 PM
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The collars in anodised are common,id take from that they wore them with whichever cap badge they were wearing.
The shoulder titles "PY" exist in gold anodised,scarce though. Probaly from the time when they were independant recce.
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Old 19-10-21, 07:26 PM
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The IWM holds a Pembroke Yeomanry sealed pattern anodised "cap" badge. Dates start at 1961 which is after the RA period. Unfortunately,it doesnt say what the size is .
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Old 19-10-21, 07:27 PM
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The bi metal collars were worn with the RA cap badge during WW2, and they continued to wear the collars all the through to present day RLC.
The anodised PY is hard to get also, and it was when they became the Squadron.
The cap badge being worn from 1947, 302nd FD Regt RA, to 1961 which eludes me.
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Old 19-10-21, 07:39 PM
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Chris,id have a word with 41st,he has an interest in Pembroke Yeomanry. Theres a couple of old threads that may help.
Just had a little dig,the smaller anodised badge is the Firmin one held by the IWM. The larger is a Gaunt London badge.
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Old 19-10-21, 07:44 PM
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Cheers Mike, I'll drop him a PM.
Good info about the large one, makers mark wise.
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Chaps purely for interest my anodised set - minus the large cap badge of course . . . we live in hope. The PY titles are indeed scarce.
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Old 20-10-21, 09:37 AM
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Chaps purely for interest my anodised set - minus the large cap badge of course . . . we live in hope. The PY titles are indeed scarce.
Thanks, yea, one day, maybe....

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Old 20-10-21, 07:11 PM
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Thank you to those who have contributed to my thread.
231 views and no one knows the answer to my original question? Further study by myself needed. No worries, just thought with all the knowledge on this forum, someone would know.


I fully acknowledge what it says in Norman Litchfield's book, and I take it as they did go back to wearing PY cap Badges when becoming 302nd Regt RA, I wondered if someone could second the information, and have some written reference or pictures of Some sort.
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Chris,

Sorry for the delay in responding, I thought I had but obviously didn't press the submit button.

Having trawled through my notes taken during the course of research visits to the IWM, Tenby and Haverfordwest museums this is what I've jotted down. Not as complete as it could be as it was not what I was looking for, nevertheless:-

I have it that the large pattern A/A badge was sealed by Firmin in 1962. This was the same year that the senior NCOs black leopard arm badge was approved. Pattern No.18732 was sealed 14.11.67, whilst I did not not note what this referred to I would presume that it is the smaller beret badge.

With regard to your particular query I also noted that Pattern No.15161 was lodged as a working pattern, whatever that is, on 11.08.52. This maybe the bimetal pattern. It would fit with the Firmin manufactured bimetal badge I have with gilding metal battle honour scroll and a heavy reinforcing plate on the rear. This badge does not fit with the earlier 1st WW period badges and as we know they were badged as Artillery after 1920. It is also the dead spit of the badge shown by Norman in his book.

I am trying to get access to the county archives to research some Victorian helmet plates to the CYC and will see if they have anything further, if they ever respond to my request for access that is.

Hope the above is some use.

Hwyl,

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Old 24-10-21, 08:55 PM
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Hi Kevin
Thank you so much for your reply.
And no need to be sorry, it's me that should be sorry for being impatient for a reply!
Superb information, thank you so much.
Your time is greatly appreciated.
I've two badges, both are definitely not pre 20's, and look post WW2.
One is the same as your Firmin, so I'd say both are 302nd Regt RA.
I hope to find a photo one day.
You never know.
Thank you again Kevin.
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Old 25-10-21, 10:15 AM
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Some better shots of my two later PY cap badges.
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