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Old 16-09-21, 03:39 AM
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Some more......

Always keen to hear if anyone can identify any of the initials as I'm pretty useless at crosswords too.
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Old 16-09-21, 11:16 AM
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Seeing the vast number of different "unofficial" badges it is easy to understand why the Government had to bring in regulations about the badges and state that only "official" badges would be allowed.

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Have seen a rise in the number of "Coventry Ordnance Works" badges appearing on line , some are quite 'dodgy' !

I like the enamelled versions and have noticed a few subtle variations in colour , clouds and even a couple with flames coming from the gun barrel.

Spotted this "Low Moor Munitions Co.Ltd." medal/medallion and wonder if the jeweller/artisan who enamelled the Coventry badges got his inspiration for the clouds from this .....
or if it is simply coincidence ?

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Old 17-09-21, 12:41 AM
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Hi Mike

Agreed with your comments re the variety of badges. On the one hand a nightmare for the authorities, but what a wonderful area for us all to take an interest in!

I suspect that the badgemakers must have done very well out of this exercise...

Your comment about the Coventry badges is also one to consider. I recently saw one that looked as if it had been cast or, maybe being charitable, was a detector find as it had a very frosted appearance.

And yes, I've noted a few more enameled versions turning up....
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Old 17-09-21, 11:03 PM
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Thought that I'd add this photo to the discussion. This Fattorini badge usually has a separate "tablet" with a company name on it but was clearly available as a generic version.

Another piece of the unofficial badge avalanche........

Question: did they still serve any semi-official function after they were proscribed? The number and variety that exist today would suggest they still served some purpose.
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Anyone like to decipher this?

It is hand made with the lettering hand-engraved and then filled with blue enamel, then gilded. Made this way it would not have been mass-produced, I think.
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I have 14 1914 makers, of which I have 13, as follows (I've left out the unmarked ones, but I am assuming they may be Gaunt??)

I have also read somewhere Fattorini, WT Carroll and Mappin & Webb made them, but I have yet to see any examples, so they are a maybe.

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I've added the "Charles Bach" badge to my list and will give you a heads-up if it , or any of the others you're after , turn up.

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As always Mike, much appreciated

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I've added the "Charles Bach" badge to my list and will give you a heads-up if it , or any of the others you're after , turn up.

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Old 07-10-21, 09:47 AM
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Yes, I saw the Chas. Bach, 1914 badge too. The backstamp is a trifle odd and not the typical style seen on these badges.

I guess that when you think how many hundreds of thousands they had to produce, lots of small badge makers must have been really pleased...

It would be interesting to have close look at the front strike of a number of 1914 badges and see if there are variations in the crown, positions of letters, etc.

If there is very little variation, then maybe a "master die" was cut and hobs sent out to contractors. The real effort was making the finished article after all.

Mind you, a skillful die sinker could have reproduced any design in precise detail.
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If anyone is after specific OWS 1915 badges (Letters/Manufacturers) it looks like someone is selling off part of a collection (individually).

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/50-grm/m....p2047675.l2562


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Thanks Mike
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1915 OWS "T" series made by H.JENKINS & SONS Ltd.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/384474324...QAAOSw3LVhfakE

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