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Old 11-03-23, 08:36 AM
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Hi Team

what are your opinions on this brass SAS Tropical wing.

I have come across this thread but would like to have confirmation of good or bad.

Note the lugs are not alighned and not hallmarked


https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...light=tropical


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Old 11-03-23, 08:11 PM
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Hi Team

I have updated the image quality to show a better bronze look for opinons.

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Old 12-03-23, 06:26 PM
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Hi Team

Any opinions on this.

I think the lugs have been resolded and they aren't aligned which makes me dubious about the one I have.

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Old 12-03-23, 06:39 PM
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Phil, I have this pattern in anodised alluminium. These I know are good - I dont know enough about the brass ones to know if they are right or not (i.e. if they were produced for issue in brass).

My AA ones attached with backing plate for interests sake. I haven't scrutinised the detail between the two to see if they have related die flaws etc.

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Old 13-03-23, 05:22 AM
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Thanks Bess

The only comparison to my one is in the thread and it comes of a poor second.

Youre one also looks detailed and better quality than mine.

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Old 13-03-23, 05:08 PM
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Brass Parachute with wings, SAS. Pattern number 17228, Catalogue No. CB 7509, sealed 19 Sep 1956, entered the CCN on 11 Jan 1957. No NSN found.

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Old 13-03-23, 05:14 PM
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Hi Marc

Thanks for the sealed date, always good to have that info, if mine is correct I will add the details.

Do you think this is legit

I have images of both lugs and the misalignment.

Maybe this might sway viewers either side?

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Old 13-03-23, 06:02 PM
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Here is my example from my collection and acquired more than 40 years ago.

The back shows that it is in gilding metal and die stamped, it has slightly bent or misaligned lugs.

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Here are the gilding metal wings on a Sealed Pattern card held I think by the IWM.

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Old 13-03-23, 06:12 PM
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Odd description No 3 Dress is Tropical Ceromonial (white No 1) so the tropical is No 4 (khaki drill No2).

I never saw the metal badge in use only cloth - often on poppers. No 4 dress was usually cloth not metal but trends change.
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Thanks for showing Tim

The misaligned lugs split pins gives me some hope mine is legit albeit extremely tentative at this stage.

How say you on my one good bad or ugly?

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Old 13-03-23, 07:29 PM
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I have an image of another Sealed Pattern card dated 1956 which shows the GM wings and is dated 1956. For copyright reasons I cannot post the image here.

We are talking about a badge that was approved and existed in 1956 and that is nearly 70 years ago!

There are pictures of the SAS wearing White No3 Dress in Malaya and/or Borneo in the 1950s/1960s

As I posted in an old thread, in the late 1960s I saw CSgt Singleton of the LOYALS wearing the GM wings on a brassard. He was presumably a SAS veteran and was then serving in an Army Youth Team or Cadet Training Team in Liverpool.

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Old 13-03-23, 11:44 PM
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Thanks Tim/Alan

For adding more to the discussion.

Okay so gilded metal is what it should be and mines a repro.

Into my box of cads bounders and misfits !

Thanks for all the input team.

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Here's a couple of examples, both in gilding metal/brass, I have in my collection that I've been meaning to upload for members opinions.

I have had the wing with the relief back for over 40 years but it differs from the others shown here. The smooth backed wing I have no idea about - could it be a RAN Special Duties example?

Any input would be gratefully received.
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Here are the gilding metal wings on a Sealed Pattern card held I think by the IWM.

Tim
Tim, do we know if there are any physical descriptors that accompany the 'card'? The reason I ask is that, the buttons 'appear' anodised. Is it the case that the badges ( Inc wings) are A/A ?

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