British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

Recent Books by Forum Members

   

Go Back   British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum > British Military Insignia > General Topics.

 Other Pages: Galleries, Links etc.
Glossary  Books by Forum Members     Canadian Pre 1914    CEF    CEF Badge Inscriptions   Canadian post 1920     Canadian post 1953     British Cavalry Badges     Makers' Marks    Pipers' Badges  Canadian Cloth Titles  Books  SEARCH
 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 17-08-22, 01:03 AM
rcaf*100 rcaf*100 is offline
New Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Posts: 13
Default British WWII medal naming/engraving?

Hello all,

Just a general question regarding naming of British WWII campaign stars and whether this was common practice or not. I have seen many examples of First World War medals that were stamped with the recipient's name but not so for Second World War; is that because the practice was dropped or because it only applies to certain types of medals? (i.e. if WWII campaign stars were in fact stamped in this manner were the Defence Medal & War Medal 1939-45 typically stamped on the edge as well?)

Asking in order to gather info on obtaining replacement medals for an RAF casualty.

Thanks,

rcaf*100
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 17-08-22, 05:56 AM
Milmed's Avatar
Milmed Milmed is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: South Africa
Posts: 1,705
Default

Not all countries named there WWII medals.

As far as I am aware UK did not name WWII Medals

South Africa named all WWII medals with force number, Initials and Surname
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 17-08-22, 06:51 AM
Alex Rice Alex Rice is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,750
Default

Yes, Milmed is correct, UK WWII campaign medals were not named. Boots chemists did offer a naming service where people could bring their medals in and have them engraved/impressed with their details, but that was a personal option. I have seen photos of the naming of some of these but have never actually seen any myself.
Cheers,
Alex
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 17-08-22, 07:47 AM
54Bty's Avatar
54Bty 54Bty is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: London, England
Posts: 6,300
Default

Named by Boots. Not mine.

Marc
__________________
I am still looking for British Army cloth Formation, Regimental, Battalion, Company and other Unit sleeve badges, from 1980 onwards.

Last edited by 54Bty; 30-11-22 at 05:21 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 17-08-22, 08:55 AM
gary1666 gary1666 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 314
Default

https://britishmedalforum.com/viewto...122722#p932311
There is a thread on the British Medal Forum with examples of Boots naming, very informative
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 17-08-22, 11:13 AM
dumdum's Avatar
dumdum dumdum is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,448
Default

Just a quick comment. I was always told that the only countries that officially named their WW2 medals were: Australia, Canada and South Africa.

I've also seen Indian issues "named" but they look as if they were done by a local workshop, using those number and letter sets that we played with in metalwork class! In other words, they are often very uneven and irregular.

I have seen a nicely engraved set of NZ medals but these would have been privately done.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 17-08-22, 11:15 AM
dumdum's Avatar
dumdum dumdum is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,448
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 54Bty View Post
Named by Boots. Not mine.

Marc
Interesting photos. Not seen this style before.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 18-08-22, 06:34 AM
Alex Rice Alex Rice is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,750
Default

I thought Canadian medals weren't named? I thought only SA & Aussie medals were named. Indian medals were named but I believe it was done by hand rather than in a jig but I don't know if all the medals were named.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 18-08-22, 08:05 AM
Frank Kelley's Avatar
Frank Kelley Frank Kelley is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 7,562
Default

As already stated, British campaign stars as well as the War and Defence medals were not issued named, if buying original examples of these for an RAF casualty that was entitled to the Aircrew Europe Star, be very careful as they have been copied for many years with original examples now being quite expensive.



Quote:
Originally Posted by rcaf*100 View Post
Hello all,

Just a general question regarding naming of British WWII campaign stars and whether this was common practice or not. I have seen many examples of First World War medals that were stamped with the recipient's name but not so for Second World War; is that because the practice was dropped or because it only applies to certain types of medals? (i.e. if WWII campaign stars were in fact stamped in this manner were the Defence Medal & War Medal 1939-45 typically stamped on the edge as well?)

Asking in order to gather info on obtaining replacement medals for an RAF casualty.

Thanks,

rcaf*100
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 18-08-22, 10:08 AM
dumdum's Avatar
dumdum dumdum is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,448
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Rice View Post
I thought Canadian medals weren't named? I thought only SA & Aussie medals were named. Indian medals were named but I believe it was done by hand rather than in a jig but I don't know if all the medals were named.
OK, scrub the reference to the Canadian medals...
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 20-08-22, 02:19 PM
rcaf*100 rcaf*100 is offline
New Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Posts: 13
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dumdum View Post
Just a quick comment. I was always told that the only countries that officially named their WW2 medals were: Australia, Canada and South Africa.

I've also seen Indian issues "named" but they look as if they were done by a local workshop, using those number and letter sets that we played with in metalwork class! In other words, they are often very uneven and irregular.

I have seen a nicely engraved set of NZ medals but these would have been privately done.

Interesting, not sure where that info would have originated from... I have looked long and hard for any named examples in Canada and never come across any. In fact, I was told the UK, AUS & SA would name medals and Canada didn't adopt the practice. Thanks for your input.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 20-08-22, 02:21 PM
rcaf*100 rcaf*100 is offline
New Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Posts: 13
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 54Bty View Post
Named by Boots. Not mine.

Marc
Very nice Marc, thanks for sharing!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 20-08-22, 03:36 PM
mjw mjw is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 606
Default

WW11 campaign stars and medals were officially named by the Rhodesian Government for issue to the relatives of airforce personnel unfortunately killed on active service.

Kind regards, Malcolm.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 20-08-22, 06:35 PM
rcaf*100 rcaf*100 is offline
New Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Posts: 13
Default

Thank you all for the valuable input. It seems engraving/stamping was purely voluntary among the UK-based recipients of Campaign Stars & other Second World War medals, and their families. Not the case here in Canada... I think it's a wonderful was to commemorate veterans' service.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 21-08-22, 11:24 AM
dumdum's Avatar
dumdum dumdum is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,448
Default

I can probably get hold of the NZ set to photograph if you want.

Nicely done and the sort of thing that any competent local jeweller could have done for you at one time but you would be hard-pressed to get this task carried out for you these days.

Hand engraving has gone the way of oil lamps and hoop skirts....
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
defence medal


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

mhs link

All times are GMT. The time now is 03:11 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.