Lanarkshire Yeomanry on Lugs.

[jfenzy1]

Good morning all,
A Lanarkshire Yeomanry badge on 4 lugs. Looks ok to me, and seems to have some age to it. A little bit rubbed What do others think ?

[3dg]

I like the lugs, look good.
A good crisp strike, I'd say it's ok in my opinion.
Chris

[jfenzy1]

Thanks for the reply Chris,
I also like the look of the lugs, and the badge feels good in the hand. Would I be correct in thinking that this could be a pre WW1 badge ? I would like to put a timeline on it if I could.
Best regards,
Jim.

[Alan O]

Jim

With lugs then it is likely to be 1908-1919. They wore the same badge as RA in WW2 but I would expect those badges to have vertical shanks.

Alan

[jfenzy1]

Thanks Alan,
That's great, I am happy with that result. Thank you for the reply.
Kind regards,
Jim.

[Luke H]

As mentioned it’s genuine, this fixing configuration is well known for Lanark Yeo but somewhat uncommon v’s slidered examples.

Even Keith Hook does not know the reason behind the 4 loop badges and he has been collecting Yeomanry since the early 1950s.

In my experience the loops are quite long, I suggested they may be for going through something thick i.e. possibly a pouch badge or accoutrement, however that is just a shot in the dark theory as four seems overkill for headdress.

Hopefully some day something concrete will come to light.

[jfenzy1]

Thanks Luke,
I am more than happy that the badge is confirmed good by all you guys. Even more so that it is not so common as the slider version. It may come to light that the four loops are for a pouch or something else in the future, but for now after having such a bad run of fakes and disappointments lately, I am just glad to get something genuine under my belt. Thanks again.
Kind regards,
Jim.

[dubaiguy]

If you decide to look for one on a slider, this photo may help. Genuine on the left, common fake on the right. I do find it difficult to immediately spot this fake when looking at the usual small badly focused images of badges for sale and it took me a while to get my eye in. The long sharp claw on the fake and the shape of the bell being my first point of reference in weeding them out. Unfortunately in many respects the fake looks better than the real thing.
Mark

[jfenzy1]

Thanks Mark,
That is a big help. I will be keeping a lookout.
Kind regards,
Jim.

[The Quartermaster]

With reference to the four looped version, with relatively long loops, I would suggest this was for wear on the slouch hat. Much more likely in my view than fittings for a pouch. Just a hunch, cheers Mike

[Luke H]

Something I had considered but, I’m yet to see a photo of the Lanarkshire Yeomanry wearing slouch hats post 1908.

Also, off top of my head I know of no other headdress badge for slouch hat with four loops, despite there being some very large ones out there.

But ultimately knows. Until one turns up still affixed to whatever it was in its original context, or we find some documentary evidence it’s a mystery.

[Rockape]

Originally Posted by dubaiguy

"The long sharp claw on the fake and the shape of the bell being my first point of reference in weeding them out".

I agree with Mark on this. In addition, the genuine badge has voided feathers at the bottom edge, whereas the fake has unvoided feathers. The same cannot be said for the IY pattern or NCO arm badge.

Gaz