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Old 15-05-10, 04:24 PM
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Default RCAF Pilots Wings

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Can anybody tell me if these are the real deal or not? I know RAF pilots wings were issued unpadded and the padded ones were private purchase, but have no idea about RCAF.
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Old 15-05-10, 04:30 PM
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It would help if I attached the pictures...
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Old 03-06-10, 09:40 AM
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Any takers?
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Old 03-06-10, 11:21 AM
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Hi Alex, They look good to me.
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Old 04-06-10, 09:06 PM
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Fantastic, thanks Bill.
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Old 08-10-10, 11:21 PM
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I agree, nice wartime example, probably a graduation piece
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Old 09-10-10, 05:41 PM
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They are standard Canadian made flat wings, usually worn on the BD (most aircrew preferred padded examples on the SD as they loked a bit more 'showy'). The pin was of course, not standard. It could have been added for any number of reasons - a collector pinning it in a display, a wife pinning it to a dress, or something else.
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They are standard Canadian made flat wings, usually worn on the BD (most aircrew preferred padded examples on the SD as they loked a bit more 'showy'). The pin was of course, not standard. It could have been added for any number of reasons - a collector pinning it in a display, a wife pinning it to a dress, or something else.

....or sometimes for the tropical shirt.
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They look good to Moi. Whoever that rusted cloth pine I never seen that.
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Old 12-10-10, 11:39 PM
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Some wings were fitted with pins for khaki drill uniforms. This may have been a modification for that order of dress.
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Yes, RCAF wings could be purchased pre padded.
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Some wings were fitted with pins for khaki drill uniforms. This may have been a modification for that order of dress.
Thanks Mr Bill, first time I've seen that on any Canadian Cloth patches.
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Old 13-10-10, 04:16 PM
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Get rid of that safety pin before it stains the wings any more! I know it may be original, but keep it away from the wings if you must hold on to it.

You can sometimes use oxallic acid to remove/reduce rust stains. Not sure how easy it is to obtain as it is a poison (it's actually found in rhubarb, which is why you shouldn't eat it raw). When I worked in a conservation lab we used to get it from a chemical supply company (such as Fisher Scientific in Canada or BDH in the UK). Check with your local pharmacist too. I think the percentage solution is fairly weak, but can't remember off hand; it's been a long time since I used any. David
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The khaki dress worn by the RCAF was the summer dress, something the RNZAF and RAAF also had but the RAF did not. The RAF had tropical service dress for wear in hot cimates, which could be a possibility. However, if it had been so used, there would be more evidence of fading to the face of the badge through sunlight. Also, whilst a half wing might be worn like that, I think a pilots wing would flap around too much. I have, and have seen numerous pilots wings worn on the tropical service dress, and in those cases where they are detachable (usually for washing where the locals used to beat the cloth with rocks), the badge has been affixed with popper studs, especially the wing tips, to prevent them flapping around.

As the back of the badge appears to have been covered in glue, which also covers the pin, I'd suggest a display is the most likely answer.
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Old 13-10-10, 08:25 PM
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Hello SAS1, Agreed that these are not likely worn on the khaki drill uniform, as the RCAF pattern brevet designed for that order of dress appears to have been an enamel / metal wing with a pin / hook fastener. Just a possiblity.
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