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11 Light Anti Aircraft RCA Regiment
Hello,
11 LAA RCA Regiment had a short life. It was raised at Colchester in UK in February 1943 from existing batteries (4th, 53rd, 62nd LAA Bty) which came from 2,3 and 4 LAA RCA Regiment, when LAA regiment war establishment was reduced from 4 to 3 batteries. After one year of existence, the 11 LAA RCA was disbanded in March 1944 also in UK. So the regiment was never stationed in Canada and I would be interested to know if 11 LAA RCA slip-on Canadian made exists or only British made like those presented there? Note the first slip-on above is printed on canvas coarse wave like all the first printed patterns which appeared early in 1943, and the second is hand embroidered. Cheers. J-F |
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Hi J F , The 11th that I have in my collection is also English made but not hand embroidered,It was done on a machine. Most of our overseas Artillery Regt's were formed in England ,mostly from batteries that embarked from this side ( Canada) very few of the units that went overseas left here as Regiments for the simple reason that they were local battery size units scattered around the country here when they moblized, but a few did leave here as such. That is why you see so many Artillery titles made in England.
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Hi J F , The 11th that I have in my collection is also English made but not hand embroidered,It was done on a machine. Most of our overseas Artillery Regt's were formed in England ,mostly from batteries that embarked from this side ( Canada) very few of the units that went overseas left here as Regiments for the simple reason that they were local battery size units scattered around the country here when they moblized at that time they were very territorial, but a few did leave here as such. That is why you see so many Canadian Artillery titles made in England.
Ray |
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11 laa rca
Hello J-F. Not sure there is a simple answer to your question. Many RCA regiments obtained titles from sources both in Canada and the UK. The printed canvas titles were only acquired from the UK.
In the archives research, there is no mention of the 11 LAA acquiring their titles from Canada. Unfortunately, the records are incomplete. Generally speaking, by the time that 11 LAA was formed, units had permission to acquire their needs from sources in the UK. There does not appear to be a Canadian pattern title for the unit. Image attached of a UK pattern machine embroidered. |
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What the 11 LAA RCA batteries became after the regiment was disbanded?
Hello Ray and Bill,
Thanks for your comments, information and picture. I wonder what became the 3 batteries of the 11 LAA RCA after the regiment was disbanded? Does anybody know their fate? I only know the former CO of the regiment (Lt-Col R.M. Bishop) took the command of the 2 LAA RCA in May or June 1944 in Italy. Cheers. J-F |
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Falconer, in his book Battery Flashes of W.W.II indicates that the batteries of 11 LAA were broken up. Manpower shortages were cited as the reason.
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I have notes on 62nd LAA Bty RCA as it falls under my interest in BC units.
62nd Field Battery 15 Oct 1929 Authorized 62 Field Battery (Howitzer), RCA Duncan, BC 1939-1945 62 Field Battery Serial 449C Details named components of CASF GO 135/39 Effective 1 Sept 1939 44th/62nd Field Battery RCA, CASF GO 184/40 Effective 24 May 1940 Assigned to 13th Field Regiment RCA, CASF, 3rd Division, CASF. Sub 13 Field Regiment, RCA Redesignated 62nd Field Battery RCA, Serial 451 GO 45/41 Effective 1 Jan 1941 62nd Anti-Aircraft Battery Serial 451 Sub 4th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, RCA GO 74/41 Effective 1 Jan 1941 ● Title: 4 LAA RCA 62nd Anti-Aircraft Battery Serial 449C GO 54/42 Effective 22 Dec 1941 62nd Anti-Aircraft Battery Serial 449C Assigned to 11th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, RCA 1st Canadian Anti-Aircraft Brigade, First Canadian Army GO 242/43 Effective 6 Mar 1943 11th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, RCA ● Title: 11 LAA RCA Disbanded in UK GO 357/44 Effective 1 Mar 1944 1 Apr 1946 Converted and redesignated. GO 115/46 62nd Anti-Tank Battery (Self Propelled), RCA Courtenay, BC Subunit of 41st Anti-Tank Regiment (Self Propelled), RCA ● Title: 41 A TK 41 Anti-Tank Regt Disb 1 Oct 1954 62nd Anti-Tank Battery, RCA ● Title: 62 A TK 31 Dec 1954 Redesignated and converted. The Canadian Scottish Regiment (Princess Mary’s) 66 LAA and 62 Anti-Tank Battery, RCA absorbed by The Canadian Scottish Regiment (Princess Mary’s). References: Falconer, DW Battery Flashes Van der schee, Wyn "Cloth Epaulette Titles The Royal Regiment of Canadian Artillery" General Orders Regiments and Corps of the Canadian Army |
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Hello Bill and Phillip,
Thank you very much to share your knowledge, very informative. Best regards. J-F |
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Here is another well worn and trimmed printed canvas example. Was only the very first issue of printed RCA titles done on this thick heavy weave material?
François |
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There were at least two weights of "silko" material used in the production of the printed titles. The first issue, circa 1943, was the heavier material, and the later issues appear to be the lighter weight of material. Being the 11 LAA was disbanded, it was likely only issued in the heavier material. The examples I have are the heavier weight.
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