Another of Sandie's mystery men... - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

SandieNZ · #1 07-06-08, 11:14 AM

Here's the latest mystery - the pic is not all that clear - but you guys can work miracles!
We don't know the identity of this fellow, although he appears in photos with both George and Richard (with them out of uniform).
I'll leave my theories until I hear from you

Voltigeur · #2 07-06-08, 12:05 PM

Hello Sandie, looking at the fourth photograph with the cap badge, it looks in all probability an East Lancashire Regt. Hope that helps.
Jo

SandieNZ · #3 07-06-08, 02:54 PM

thanks Jo,
Sandie

Toby Purcell · #4 08-06-08, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SandieNZ

Here's the latest mystery - the pic is not all that clear - but you guys can work miracles!
We don't know the identity of this fellow, although he appears in photos with both George and Richard (with them out of uniform).
I'll leave my theories until I hear from you

East Lancashire Regt and with 2 wound stripes (i.e. wounded on 2 separate occasions), possibly in the throat, as he appears to have either a white bandage, or scarf (the latter would be frowned upon), around his neck under the collar.

SandieNZ · #5 08-06-08, 04:02 AM

and I thought it was just his skivvy!!

Toby Purcell · #6 08-06-08, 02:29 PM

Looking again there might even be a third wound stripe - what do you think ?

What is a skivvy (here it means a servant) ?

Voltigeur · #7 08-06-08, 06:18 PM

Toby, in Canada and the US skivvy is an underwear or undershirt, depending on the person talking.
Jo

Toby Purcell · #8 08-06-08, 11:33 PM

OK Jo, thanks, I never knew that. "Great Nations divided by a common language" ha ha!

SandieNZ · #9 09-06-08, 12:37 AM

Here in NZ a skivvy is also an outer shirt, usally made of cotton or brushed cotton, or a knit fabric with a high neck collar - short enough to stand up on it's own, or long enough to turn over on itself. Available in mens and womens styles. Great for winter!
The things we learn eh?

Sandie

Toby Purcell · #10 09-06-08, 09:13 AM

Well, well, to us that's just a Roll Neck (UK) - 'plain English' and all that - or Polo Neck (US). : - )

Bantam · #11 09-06-08, 03:19 PM

Sandy,
Purely speculation but I reckon that the two women in the photo are sisters and that the uniformed soldier is their brother.How close am I with the information you have?
Regards
Bantam

SandieNZ · #12 10-06-08, 11:38 AM

Hi Bantam,
That was my deduction as well... I think (am pretty sure) the couple standing are Richard Horsley and Jessie nee McCullough, which would then make the soldier a McCullough. There are 2 from the East Lanc Regt listed on the medal card index, 1 Thomas and the other James (who is also listed on the medal card as alias James Fisher)!
I have sent for Richard & Jessie's marriage cert to see if I can take this further. I think the 1901 census was just too early for the kids so I'll have to wait to see if Jessie's father's name helps me.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks they can see a likeness! Thanks for your input.
Regards,
Sandie

Bantam · #13 10-06-08, 04:15 PM

Hi Sandie,
Spent a great deal of my life working and observing people so just thought it would help.We won't even go into the pyschic thing thats another story not for this forum.
I have just finished reading "Boy Soldiers in the First World War" where some boys used an alias to enlist under age and thus preventing thier parents finding them and having them discharged.This would coincide with him not being on the 1901 census because he was not born then ?
Look forward to reading your follow up information.
Regards
Bantam