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Old 25-10-13, 10:07 PM
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Hi all

I don't do this very often, as being on the Forum these years I've learnt a lot about what's good and bad. But these three I'm 50/50 on.

The Devonshire one has the sign of gold braze on the lugs and is made of a thick material.

The Norfolk Econ also has me wondering. Has what looks like a nice tapered slider, and some signs of gold braze. Same with the Leicestershire TF. Looks OK, but would appreciate some extra eye's for a once over.

Cheers all.

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Simon.
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Old 25-10-13, 11:14 PM
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Simon,
I be reasonably happy with all but the awful looking tiger! Not one I would even consider to be good in the slightest!

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Old 26-10-13, 12:09 AM
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Thanks Andy, just what I was looking for. What are the pointers on the Leics then I should look out for in the future.

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Old 26-10-13, 12:17 AM
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Simon,
It could be just the image but the slider does not look right and the features of the cat itself! There is definitely an EI version of this badge, but I don't think yours is one?

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Old 26-10-13, 12:26 AM
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Yeah. I know what you mean. The slider was what made me post it with doubt. It has virtually no braze to the connection point. Also, I don't like the sanding marks of the flat edge to the rear. Never seen that before.

I think as you say I'll keep the other two and return the Leic's.

Thanks Andy, as always really appreciate your opinion.

Regards, and have a good weekend.

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Old 26-10-13, 01:30 AM
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Simon,
I'll post some images of a good one later today!

You have a good weekend too!

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Old 26-10-13, 06:59 AM
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Hi Simon

Not sure about the Devonshire, it looks pretty much the same as mine and someone suggested that was a copy.

Rob

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Old 26-10-13, 11:12 AM
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Hi Rob, as you can see ; it got the all clear this time. The one difference, is the one I just posted above is much crisper in front detail than I think yours.


I have another also, but the lugs have been snipped. It too has the traces of gold coloured braze.. I'll post a pic when I put it up in sale album today. Maybe have a taker for it. That was OK's too I think back when I picked it up.

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Old 26-10-13, 11:34 AM
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Hi Simon

Here is another from the same dies?

http://cultmancollectables.com/produ...etal-cap-badge

And possibly this one as well?

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=34463

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=34464

Its possible that the lugged white metal Devonshire Regiment badge is a 1st Volunteer Battalion badge and the 5th TF Battalion badges were fitted with a vertical shank?

As to whether these are genuine, I suspect not.

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Old 26-10-13, 02:04 PM
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This is the reverse of my very dirty white metal badge. I prefer this one as it doe not have the footed lugs and the reverse detail is precise. The first one shown has poor definition.
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Looks like you might be in the minority Andy on the Devonshire's.......

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Simon,
it would not be for the first time and I seriously doubt the last either! If it were mine I'd be keeping it! It is your badge and you are the one who's able to handle it, from the images it ticks enough boxes for me.

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Old 26-10-13, 03:56 PM
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I intend to keep it Andy, as I got it for a song.
I agree also, overall it ticks enough boxes.
I am though sending back the Leics and Norfolk.

Thanks all for the input

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Simon,
there's nothing wrong with the Norfolk badge . I cannot lay my hands on my 4/5 & 6th Leics EI, but a triangular tuft of grass just forward of the hind legs it what you should look for!!

Andy

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Old 26-10-13, 04:22 PM
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Simon,
Norfolk Regt EI badges are quite hard to come by and if you have paid less than £35-45 you've done well! I have so far only identified 2 differing die patterns, of which yours is one!

Here are the two I've only managed to ID so far;

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