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Old 05-11-11, 06:47 PM
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The plastic backing changed to a primrose foam backing and was worn with the enamel badge a couple of years before amalgamation.
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Old 06-11-11, 08:24 PM
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I carefully noted details of that book on badge backings, and thinking "I'll have some of that", I logged on to Amazon to find they do have a copy on offer - at £231.36, so I guess I don't get the book and am now hoping we will hear a lot more on this thread about this really interesting subject.
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Old 07-11-11, 01:10 AM
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I carefully noted details of that book on badge backings, and thinking "I'll have some of that", I logged on to Amazon to find they do have a copy on offer - at £231.36, so I guess I don't get the book and am now hoping we will hear a lot more on this thread about this really interesting subject.
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Try AddAll.com, they have a couple of cheaper ones listed for sale.

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Old 07-11-11, 01:17 AM
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Hi Guys,

I cover the modern badge backings for A/A badges as at Dec 2004 in one of the appendices of my book.

34 units are covered.

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Old 07-11-11, 11:34 PM
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Nice informative post. For those that are interested the book: "Badge Backings and Special Embellishments of the Britiah Army"
can be found here at $35.00 US. http://www.idsabooks.com/cgi-bin/idb455/index.html.
Please ignore this post,seems like I just got the last copy.Sorry Chaps.

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Old 09-11-11, 08:13 PM
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The Cheshire Regiment has never worn a backing badge? In the regimental history is a picture of Lt Col Scott 7th Bn wearing a backing badge of the regimental colours cerice and buff in WW11. It may have been a one off.
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Old 21-11-11, 09:17 PM
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The Cheshire Regiment has never worn a backing badge? In the regimental history is a picture of Lt Col Scott 7th Bn wearing a backing badge of the regimental colours cerice and buff in WW11. It may have been a one off.
I have a WW2 badge with similar backing that came with other Cheshire Regt items, it may have been only certain battalions though
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Old 21-11-11, 10:32 PM
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A very interesting thread.

The Green Howards started to wear a Grass Green square behind the badge in the early 1970's and I believe the Devon & Dorsets did the same. Are these regarded as being badge backings ?

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Old 22-11-11, 09:48 PM
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Yes they are. The Devonshire and Dorset Regiment wore the backing from formation in 1958, although I'm not sure they wore it with the Wessex Bde. badge. The green backing came from the Dorsetshire Regiment, who wore it officially from 1951.

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Default Irish green shamrock backing - which regiment please?

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Any clues on which irish regiment and the type of badge for this backing badge please. It is 7cm wide and 6.5cm tall. The two holes for lugs are approx 5cm apart. I thought it might be an arm badge backing for an irish piper badge but thoughts most welcome.

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Hi all

Any clues on which irish regiment and the type of badge for this backing badge please. It is 7cm wide and 6.5cm tall. The two holes for lugs are approx 5cm apart. I thought it might be an arm badge backing for an irish piper badge but thoughts most welcome.

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It depends on how old it is? The only regiment that I know to have worn a shamrock behind their cap badge was the Royal Munster Fusiliers but they were disbanded in 1922. Since then it has been worn as an arm badge but I am unaware of any unit copying the RMF, who had fought hard over some decades for the honour of wearing it in their head dress.
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Any clues on which irish regiment and the type of badge for this backing badge please. It is 7cm wide and 6.5cm tall. The two holes for lugs are approx 5cm apart. I thought it might be an arm badge backing for an irish piper badge but thoughts most welcome.

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A couple of thoughts

Unlikely to be RMF, I would have expected a "hole" for a slider, not loops and not that backing.

Could this be for the Kilt of the Royal Irish Rangers or the Royal Irish Regiment? I do not have my copy of Robin Hodges book close to hand to check dimensions. Certainly the kilt badges (antecendet regiments) have loops but I cannot remember the orientations.

It may also be a civilian band or a re-enactors item. I know of a group reenacting the RMF with these backings and cap badges with loops

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Old 06-12-11, 06:52 PM
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A couple of thoughts

Unlikely to be RMF, I would have expected a "hole" for a slider, not loops and not that backing.

Could this be for the Kilt of the Royal Irish Rangers or the Royal Irish Regiment? I do not have my copy of Robin Hodges book close to hand to check dimensions. Certainly the kilt badges (antecendet regiments) have loops but I cannot remember the orientations.

It may also be a civilian band or a re-enactors item. I know of a group reenacting the RMF with these backings and cap badges with loops

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John, The one shown in RH's book on page 172 (The Royal Irish Regt) shows a shamrock on a blue backing - overall its 5.5cm x 5.75cm. I don't see anything like it against the Royal Irish Rangers on page 409.
RH has it down as a TRF. And after having a close look at the one posted and the one in RH's book, the shamrock top leaf on the one posted is much flatter, whereas 'RH's one' shamrock leaves are the same size.
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Old 06-12-11, 10:01 PM
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John, The one shown in RH's book on page 172 (The Royal Irish Regt) shows a shamrock on a blue backing - overall its 5.5cm x 5.75cm. I don't see anything like it against the Royal Irish Rangers on page 409.
RH has it down as a TRF. And after having a close look at the one posted and the one in RH's book, the shamrock top leaf on the one posted is much flatter, whereas 'RH's one' shamrock leaves are the same size.
David
Hopefully not confusing matters but the badge shown on page 172 of "British Army Badges" by Lt Col Robin Hodges is a TRF. Although it appears to be a green shamrock on a blue background it is actually silk woven and on a black background (photo 1). There is also an embroidered merrowed edged version which was introduced in 2005 that is also worn on the helmet cover (photo 2 and 3).

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Old 23-12-11, 11:47 AM
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Thanks to everybody who has responded on my shamrock backing. It is certainly feels old, especially the backing. I still favour the idea of a pipers badge of some description but will keep searching.

merry Xmas
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