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Old 23-09-09, 06:33 AM
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Hi,

Can anyone explain the difference between
the current TRF's for Household Division
and the Brigade of Guards. They look the same to me ?

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Old 23-09-09, 08:06 PM
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I believe the TRF for both the Guards + Household Div and indeed the guards beret badge backing are indeed all the same size & design.
However, members of the household cavalry attached to 16 air assault brigade wear the larger [65mm sq?] D/Z.

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Old 23-09-09, 08:37 PM
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There has been a slight visual difference in size in those that I have come across between what is worn by the HCR and the Foot Guards. (There has also been an improvement with the quality of the finish of the TRFs improving over the years).

This looks-different-to-me size difference in the TRFs is supported in "British Army Badges by Robin Hodges" which quotes dimensions of 7 x 7cm for the HCR TRFs and 6.5 x 4.5cm (obsolete) and 6.25 x 5cm (current) for the Foot Guards TRFs.
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Old 24-09-09, 06:31 AM
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Thanks for the help guys,

I will measure mine and put in the correct spot.

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Old 24-09-09, 02:27 PM
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The difference in size of the Household Division flash (TRF) is down to the new badges being made singly and with a merrowed/stitched edge, whereas the older badges came a roll and were cut as required and then sewn on to uniforms and berets as a backing. The beret backing is still cut as required (human error will result in differing widths) and the TRFs issued as they come!

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Old 25-09-09, 06:34 AM
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Cheers Andy I have 1 piece thats about 8cm long. cut off at both ends.
I guess this is a badge backing then.

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Gordon,
now it would be, before it was used for both!

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