Long Range Desert Group Cap Badge

[cw2311]

I guess these badges demand the dollars!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281342866444...84.m1426.l2649

Cheers

[Mike B]

I guess this is the one Swende let us know he was selling

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ad.php?t=39548

At $935 US or say £560 (if my conversion is correct) that does not appear a bad buy for someone at present. Prices do alter as specialists satisfy their requirements - The old rule of demand and supply. I notice a couple sold a little time ago for around £800 - again with the David Lloyd Owen connection.

Obviously hanging on to genuine badges and not releasing them to market will again stimulate demand and prices will increase again. I have known these to sell for £1000 when there were no originals appearing anywhere. The David Lloyd Owen lots changed that for a while.

I hope a member of the Forum was able to buy it, a good investment probably - if collectors ever look at their badges as 'investments'.

Regards
Mike

[Jack8]

Originally Posted by Mike B

I guess this is the one Swende let us know he was selling

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ad.php?t=39548

At $935 US or say £560 (if my conversion is correct) that does not appear a bad buy for someone at present. Prices do alter as specialists satisfy their requirements - The old rule of demand and supply. I notice a couple sold a little time ago for around £800 - again with the David Lloyd Owen connection.

Obviously hanging on to genuine badges and not releasing them to market will again stimulate demand and prices will increase again. I have known these to sell for £1000 when there were no originals appearing anywhere. The David Lloyd Owen lots changed that for a while.

I hope a member of the Forum was able to buy it, a good investment probably - if collectors ever look at their badges as 'investments'.

Regards
Mike

Do you not think that the damage to the lug is significant?

Jack

[Mike B]

Originally Posted by Jack8

Do you not think that the damage to the lug is significant?

Jack

Hello Jack
You are right, it could have a bearing.

With rare badges though, excellent quality/attribution tends to add a bonus - rather than slight imperfections distracting from appreciation. Personally, I think genuine badges should really be valued for what they are - often reasonable wear and tear gives items character. I tend to prefer to see items in 'as found' condition. Others may disagree of course, probably just personal taste.

Mike

[Jack8]

Originally Posted by Mike B

Hello Jack
You are right, it could have a bearing.

With rare badges though, excellent quality/attribution tends to add a bonus - rather than slight imperfections distracting from appreciation. Personally, I think genuine badges should really be valued for what they are - often reasonable wear and tear gives items character. I tend to prefer to see items in 'as found' condition. Others may disagree of course, probably just personal taste.

Mike

Hi Mike,

I agree with what you are saying but the seller admitted to causing the damage himself when removing it from a frame which really takes the edge off it for me.


Cheers,
Jack

[Mike B]

Originally Posted by Jack8

Hi Mike,

I agree with what you are saying but the seller admitted to causing the damage himself when removing it from a frame which really takes the edge off it for me.


Cheers,
Jack

I tend to agree - unfortunate - but still a nice attributed item and quite a discount from the relatively recent 'going rate'. Mind you, as said previously, 'going rates' do change. I hope both the seller and new owner are satisfied - at the end of the day it is important they are happy.

Mike

[HamandJam]

I believe the David Loydd Owen ex QM stores badges were mostly bronze, does this make the brass ones rarer?

Cheers,

JB

[pittaway]

I did the book on Rhodesian LRDG, see attached. I met many veterans and encountered/owned numerous badges. went from sand cast, hand-cut, brass, cloth, bronze to silver. no one can ever answer your question. the rarest was the cloth/wire from John Andrews BEM, QM to A Sqn, the nicest looking and equally rare is the silver Rhodesian-made by Keay's Jewellers. from what I saw the bronze ones were late-war and for officers; makes sense the DLO ones were for officers probably.

[Mike B]

Jonathan

This is another exceptional book you have produced - I value my copy highly. The selection of insignia, paperwork etc featured is an excellent supplement to the research. The LRDG Officer's bullion wire badge illustrated on page 307 is of great interest.

You will know a great deal more than me about LRDG, but the brass/gilding metal badges used to crop up over here more often than the subdued/darkened ones. Then as J-B (Ham and Jam) observed, the trend appeared to change.

Regards

Mike

[saumua]

Originally Posted by Mike B

I tend to agree - unfortunate - but still a nice attributed item and quite a discount from the relatively recent 'going rate'. Mind you, as said previously, 'going rates' do change. I hope both the seller and new owner are satisfied - at the end of the day it is important they are happy.

Mike

This bronzed one is going in my collection. Might have to sell one of my common brass ones to fund it but I think a bargain at this price especially given the strength of the New Zealand dollar - not that long ago we were having to pay 3.5 to the pound where as now it's about 2.2. Shaun

[Mike B]

Shaun
Congratulations - a great addition. Like Jonathan I have a hunch the Bronzed/subdued examples are Officer, if not they were very uncommon until the David Lloyd Owen stock appeared. You probably know all this already anyway, - but a great addition to your impressive collection.
Mike

[atillathenunns]

Originally Posted by HamandJam

I believe the David Loydd Owen ex QM stores badges were mostly bronze, does this make the brass ones rarer?

Cheers,

JB

When the unissued LRDG QM stores badges first came on the market it was thru a well known dealer who targeted the bronze badges first. As an insider I got a good look at the remaining badges which were mainly brass.
The bronze QM badges purchased by the dealer were on sold for a lot less than their current value. As for the brass QM LRDG badges I was able to convince the owner to only sell a few badges at a time so as not flood the market and they achieved a far greater price than what he got for the bronze badges.