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Old 10-05-08, 01:04 AM
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Hi,
I found this badge in a collection of Canadian badges. I've been told it might be a British badges. Can anyone help me, please. Jim

PS: I deleted pics from 1st message, Sorry.
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Old 10-05-08, 04:35 AM
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Hi,
I found this badge in a collection of Canadian badges. I've been told it might be a British badges. Can anyone help me, please. Jim

PS: I deleted pics from 1st message, Sorry.
I'd say it was a WO1s Rank badge, probably as worn on a leather wrist strap when in shirtsleeve order. I would imagine Canadian WOs1 also wore these.
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Old 10-05-08, 10:16 AM
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Yes, this pattern of badges was worn by Canadians during WW2. Near the end of hostilities, the Canadian coat of arms was being taken into use to replace the British arms.
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Old 11-05-08, 05:41 PM
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Thanks for the replies, It seem if a lot of country used this badge . This one is Australian.
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Old 11-05-08, 07:31 PM
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Most of the Commonwealth Countries used this Royal Arms as the badge of rank for a WO1, until they got their own.
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Again, a silly question.... Why is this a WO1 wrist badge and not a General List Officers Badge??
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Again, a silly question.... Why is this a WO1 wrist badge and not a General List Officers Badge??
for me it is a question of size and loops .....

the general list had a sider and is bigger then the armbadge
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Old 13-05-08, 05:58 AM
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it would be the Canadian version of the officers' General List badge. Maker mark would be buried under the lug on the unicorn side & you'd only see "SC" or "Y" sticking out on either side. No mark, not Canadian.
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It could also be the Midland Home Service Regiment
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Old 17-05-08, 04:13 AM
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it would be the Canadian version of the officers' General List badge. Maker mark would be buried under the lug on the unicorn side & you'd only see "SC" or "Y" sticking out on either side. No mark, not Canadian.
OK I think I understand this. If it has the "SC" or "Y" sticking out from the the lug on the unicorn side it is Canadian and therefore an Officers General Service Badge. If it does not have this mark sticking out it is British, and a WO1 rank badge.

So do I understand this correctly? I have a couple of these kicking about in my collection. I shall check them on my return home to see if they are marked as described.

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Old 17-05-08, 10:14 AM
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It really is a question of size. Could you please post some dimensions?

The lugs appear to be brass which in my opinion leads me to believe this is a Canadian badge. Then again I could be totally wrong if your camera is not capturing the colours correctly.
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Old 17-05-08, 07:59 PM
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As I understood it, there was the General List, to which unassigned officers were assigned. Their badge was the "Crosse and Blackwell" Royal coat of arms, but in bronze. The General Service Corps was for unassigned soldiers and the badge was in brass.
In 1985, I completed my collection of the then-current British Army badges by buying a General List badge from our clothing store in Edinburgh. We were a Garrison unit back then, so there were "no questions asked"!
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Old 17-05-08, 08:06 PM
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In addition to the large badge on a slider worn by the VTC, general list ORs and Pioneer Corps in WW1, there is a smaller 'beret' sized version from WW2 also on a slider. The one in the first post is indeed a WO1's lugged rank badge.

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Old 17-05-08, 09:54 PM
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Default the Canadian General List badge

I lead you a bit astray. For a Canadian General List officer's badge (at least mine), the wording "WM. SCULLY LTD." is on the back of the lion, and "MONTREAL" is on the unicorn side. As the lugs are brazed on over the maker marks, you only see part of each on each side. I've blown out the scan of the reverse side, sharpened it somewhat & circled the "Y LTD." that you should see just below the lion-side lug.

Dimensions of the Canadian Scully badge I have are 40mm wide (tail to tail) and just a hair under 35 mm high from crown to scroll bottom at center. While the badge you posted looks exactly like the one pictured in Tripp's "Canada's Army in World War II", mine is quite different: tiny lion on crown; more "left arm" showing on the lion; voiding between the unicorn's chain and back leg, as well as in the thistles at bottom; and reworked scroll.

So maybe mine is a WO's badge?
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