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Old 23-05-19, 08:19 PM
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Default Fake Cardiff pals

Another terrible fake from Chairborne Militaria

With thanks and credit to 41st, who's thread on the Cardiff battalions is well worth looking at:

The linked badge is:

1) NOT Cardiff Pals, that was the 11th Battalion
2) NOT even a cap badge, this style was a collar

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WW1-Cardi...AAAOSwVqlc5YYw

41st's thread:

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...t=cardiff+pals

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Old 27-05-19, 09:32 PM
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Tim,

it is indeed a bad fake.

how low can this seller go....he at one time had a good reputation, long gone.
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Old 28-05-19, 07:51 AM
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Seller states "If there are any obvious faults I will always do my best to point them out"
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Old 28-05-19, 09:51 AM
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As my school Maths teacher often said to me "seems your best is not good enough..."

Such a shame to see dealers lose all credibility and trust. Selling a badge that turns out to be no good, is vastly different from selling clear and obvious fakes. I would hesitate to buy any badges from him now, because for me, helping his business is counterproductive to the hobby.

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Old 28-05-19, 10:10 AM
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As my school Maths teacher often said to me "seems your best is not good enough..."

Such a shame to see dealers lose all credibility and trust. Selling a badge that turns out to be no good, is vastly different from selling clear and obvious fakes. I would hesitate to buy any badges from him now, because for me, helping his business is counterproductive to the hobby.

Cheers, Tim
Well said

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Old 28-05-19, 01:12 PM
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As my school Maths teacher often said to me "seems your best is not good enough..."

Such a shame to see dealers lose all credibility and trust. Selling a badge that turns out to be no good, is vastly different from selling clear and obvious fakes. I would hesitate to buy any badges from him now, because for me, helping his business is counterproductive to the hobby.

Cheers, Tim
Totally agree, won't buy off him ever again.
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Old 27-06-19, 09:38 AM
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Buyer beware:

Lockdales offering the classic and well documented Birmingham Pals fake in their July auction

Note the easiest and quickest way to tell: The collar around the neck contains no 'Jewels'

Attached is how the collar should look, for all 3 battalions.

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Old 27-06-19, 07:03 PM
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Buyer beware:

Lockdales offering the classic and well documented Birmingham Pals fake in their July auction

Note the easiest and quickest way to tell: The collar around the neck contains no 'Jewels'

Attached is how the collar should look, for all 3 battalions.

Cheers, Tim

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/a...lot-image-link
Hi Tim,

Sad as it’s the very obvious ‘common’ fake.

Their next lot - Lot 100 - BADGE A BORDER REGIMENT 11TH LONSDALE BN CAP BADGE WITH GAUNT MAKERS PLAQUE is also a fake!!!

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Old 28-06-19, 10:07 AM
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Thanks for that Luke, I saw it, and sadly just assumed it would be. Good to have it confirmed

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