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11-06-12, 06:23 AM
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I.D. please ?
I have acquired this sign from an internet auction site, the seller has very kindly given me all the information he has about the item.
It came with the effects belonging to a couple, the wife served in the ATS from 1945-47 .The husband served from 1942-47 in the R.Warwicks and after in the RAOC but the item might not have belonged to either. Any help much appreciated. P.B.
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11-06-12, 08:38 PM
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PB,
I would look towards the Army Cadet Force. Here are a few similar designs: 4th Bn KOYLI (Waring F128) 6th Battalion West Yorkshire ACF (Waring F125) and Yorkshire West Riding ACF (Waring F132) Tim
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#3
11-06-12, 09:00 PM
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Tim,
Excellent,thank you. Any idea of date ? Peter
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#4
11-06-12, 09:10 PM
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John Waring (JW2 F127) gives this as West Yorkshire ACF, York and Lancaster Regiment (there were seven variants - 1st Bn through 7th Bn)
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#5
11-06-12, 09:11 PM
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ID please
Peter,
This is a flash worn by West Yorkshire ACF, York & Lancaster Regt. It can be found with numbers 1 to 7 Bn. See Waring F127. West Yorkshire ACF, West Yorkshire Regt wore black and white PoW feathers on a maroon centre within a white rose with yellow edges on a maroon rectangle. It had yellow number and letters for 1 to 6 Bn. See Waring F125 West Yorkshire ACF, Duke of Wellington's Regt wore a black and red elephant on a red centre to a rose with white and red petels with red outling to sepals, on a maroon background. It had black numerals and letters for 1 to 5 Bn. See Waring F126. West Yorkshire ACF, KOYLI, wore a white rose with yellow centre, in yellow and black a bugle. On green rose with white edges to petels. Numbrs and letters in black for 1, 2, 4 & 5 Bn (no 3 Bn). See Waring F128. Stephen. (PS- congratulations, you outbid me!)
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#6
11-06-12, 09:17 PM
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John Waring gives the one on the left as JW2 F128 - West Yorkshire ACF KOYLI (Four Bns - 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th) The one in the centre is JW2 F125 - West Yorkshire ACF, West Yorkshire Regiment (Five Bns - 1st - 5th) The ACF was clearly popular in West Yorkshire - a total of 20 Bns, but I have no idea what date this would have been the case- late 40s and into the late 50s perhaps?
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12-06-12, 05:18 AM
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12-06-12, 05:58 AM
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Thanks to everyone who replied.
Peter
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12-06-12, 06:37 AM
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Yorkshire was split into 3 'Ridings' (from a Norse word meaning third) and from this we have: North Riding (or North Yorkshire) which was traditionally the regimental recruiting area of the Green Howards. East Riding (or East Yorkshire) which was traditionally the regimental recruiting area of the East Yorkshire Regt. West Riding (or South and West Yorkshire). West Yorkshire was traditionally the regimental recruiting areas of the Duke of Wellington's Regt and the West Yorkshire Regt. South Yorks was traditionally the recruiting area for the York & Lancaster and KOYLI. West Yorkshire ACF KOYLI and West Yorkshire ACF York & Lancs therefore does not make sense. Also, 20 Battalions for West Yorkshire seems a lot although not for the whole of Yorkshire. Of course I may be putting 2 and 2 togther and making 5! Ivan
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12-06-12, 06:59 AM
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There have been many changes in the organisation of what are now the Reserve Forces Associations over the years but interestingly the Territorial Year Book for 1909 shows the units under The York (West Riding ) County Association include the 4th (Hallamshire ) Bn York and Lancaster Regt. and
5th Bn York and Lancaster Regt. P.B.
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12-06-12, 07:13 AM
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That would be correct Peter as both the 4th (Hallamshire Battalion) Y&L (recruiting from mainly Sheffield) and the 5th Y&L (recruiting from Rotherham and Barnsley) were/are in the South Yorkshire part of the West Riding.
The West Riding was abolished in the 1970's to form West Yorkshire and South Yorkshire as 2 distinct counties of England. From an ACF perspective, the whole of Yorkshire is now split into 2 parts. Yorkshire (North & West) ACF and Humberside & South Yorkshire ACF. Ivan
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