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Old 08-02-08, 12:45 PM
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I have just Aquired this badge for the Lancashire Fusiliers in white metal.
It originally had a slider which has been replaced by a pin fixing.
I can't seem to find any info from my books and wondered if any body could help ie, is it volunteer,militia etc it has me stumped.

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Old 13-02-08, 09:33 AM
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This bade is almost certainly a MILITIA badge
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Old 13-02-08, 11:50 AM
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Cheers Blizzard
the only reference to a militia i can find is in Colin Churchills collar badge book which states, 7th Royal Lancashire Militia became the 3rd batt'n in 1881,dividing into two battalions in 1891,as the 3rd and 4th.renumbered 5th and 6th 1n 1898,only to be renumbered 3rd and 4th in 1908. So all i need to find out is which battalion 3rd or 4th the badge is.
Thanks for putting me on the right track.

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Old 14-03-08, 09:45 AM
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I have had this badge for years but now I have been on this Forum I have looked at my badges in an all different way . So is this Genuine or just another restrike ?




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Old 14-03-08, 10:59 AM
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Here is my Lancashire Fusiliers badge for comparison:
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Old 14-03-08, 11:06 AM
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Have you noticed that the small twirl at the bottom of the threath on your badge goes round to the right and on mine it goes round to the left ?
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Old 14-03-08, 02:50 PM
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Spencer,

I can see nothing wrong with it as a WW2 badge. As there were differnt makers of the abdge you get makers variations.

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Old 14-03-08, 03:00 PM
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Spencer,

I can see nothing wrong with it as a WW2 badge. As there were differnt makers of the abdge you get makers variations.

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Alan,

I agree if it is a good 'un it will definitly be a later badge 40s-50s, my problem with this one is the lack of detail on the front and in the back stamping. It doesn't look like its been polished away but rather a poorly detailed stamping.

As I'm ultra cautious with my badges and am only happy if I'm 110% convinced they're real I would look to replace it personally.

In my opinion this one only has a 50-50 chance of being OK.

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Old 14-03-08, 04:13 PM
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The back looks very much like the back of my badge, apart from the fact that the slider on my badge (which is thinner) is attached to the grenade portion. I had assumed a date of circa 1918-1922.
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Old 14-03-08, 04:24 PM
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There's nothing wrong with the colour of the badge really, it looks like genuine age to me. What concerned me was the quality of the stamping. A good tapering slider is always a good sign, could you post a pic of the back? It could be any time from 1908ish - 1930s when long tapering sliders seemed to disappear.

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Old 14-03-08, 04:51 PM
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Here is the back of my badge. This badge was one of a collection of about 500 badges collected by John M.Strange of Gobowen and Lancaster. John seems to have acquired his badges over a period of about 30 years and had stopped collecting by the early 1970s. Most of his badges were purchased at a price of about 10p at a time when forgers were virtually unknown.
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Old 14-03-08, 05:02 PM
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Its a lovely one, and well found. Not sure how many I can recall being slidered in the position your one is (most usually have the attachment on the flames) but that doesn't take anything away from it its still a pukka 100%er.

... 10p those were the days, I wish I was around then would have saved myself a fortune!

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Old 16-03-08, 12:06 AM
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I have been looking through my "duplicates" box and have found a Lancashire Fusiliers badge with three loops and a right-facing sphinx - is this normal?
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Sounds like a collar dog, what's the OD size?

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Stanley,
Is the badge anything like one of these ?
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